Most extreme examples of the "Glass cannon" archetype in boxing?

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  1. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I disagree with jorge luis gonzalez being on that list. He took inhuman punishment against Bowe, maybe that diminished his punch resistance but he certainly didnt start out with a glass chin
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Eh, I'll grant that's a possibility, and Riddick Bowe did have the style and physical attributes to permanently soften an opponent up (props to Holyfield for going through a trilogy with him never really cracking for years afterward!) - but had González ever fought anyone before that with an even remotely useful punch? Other than guys he can be said to have just outdrawn in quick shootouts (e.g. Toia and Scott)?

    Pre-Big-Daddy the biggest hitter that he faced and didn't get to early himself was probably what, Snipes?
     
  3. VG_Addict

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    I'm watching the Grant-Golota fight. I don't know how Golota didn't finish him in Round 1.

    Grant had a chin made of talc.
     
  4. Consu

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    Darroll Wilson
     
  5. Consu

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    Amin Asikainen, fellow finn mentioned!

    He had some real pop behind his punches. Sadly he was never same again after Sylvester 2. That night his chin got cracked for the rest of his career. Still this fight makes me frustrated. Asikainen was toying with Sylvester first half of the fight. Then got punched behind of his head and never recovered. Fragile as hell :(

    Came back to stop old but still dangerous Campas though, great fight.

    Helenius ja Tatli.. I wouldn't even compare them to Asikainen. Asikainen came the hard way.
     
  6. Drew101

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    Other glass cannons from the lower weight divisions.

    Young Corbett II seems to fit the bill as a turn of the 20th century glass cannon, at least statistically.
    Alfonso Zamora applies for sure.
    So does Romero Anaya.
     
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  7. northpaw

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    Jeremy "half man/half amazing" Williams,
    Absolute bomber but that chin..................smh
     
  8. lloydturnip

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    Kirkland Lang great speed and hit hard chin was China.
    Herby Hide fast with dynamite power but a poor finisher and China chops.
     
  9. Serge

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    I don't think Hughes really fits the bill (think a tendency to cut as opposed to a weak set of whiskers was more his problem), but he had some serious pop in those fists of his. Check the amount of power he generates in this vicious short left that sparked Gary Jacobs out cold. Jacobs was a good fighter in his prime.

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  10. UnleashtheFURY

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    Steel cranium! Still pretty coherent considering all of the wars/how long he carried on for.
     
  11. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Youre right but the Bowe fight itself showed he had a good chin and in his next loss against witherspoon he didnt exactly just go to sleep from one single punch to the head like Lewis. Those 2 fights were both pretty brutal because he was basically just laying against the ropes and taking the same shot(overhand right) over and over without making any adjustments.

    Lewis didnt have a great chin, holyfield hurt him, Bruno had him on ***** street with a shot that would have iced him had it landed on the chin, rahman had him out and McCall had him out with the same counter right that Holmes managed to absorb later. But its the HW division and that group of guys arent exactly feather fisted. Lewis definitly did not have anything better than a 5/10 average chin

    Bowe was hurt badly by a holyfield punch in the rematch and was basically out on his feet for an entire round from a single holyfield hook. Any healthy top 20 HW would have finished him off after that because he backed straight into the corner and could not mount any offense for the rest of the round. The bulked up, 93 onwards Holyfield was an above average puncher amd planted his feet more than before but still not a 1 punch threat to someone with a good chin.
    Bowe showed alot of heart against golota but he his chin looked very suspect especially the second time, but like gonzalez he may have been damaged by then.

    Not sure about his chin 6/10 at best in terms of taking a big shot but a ton of heart.


    Shavers was a glass cannon
     
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  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Fair points. :thumbsup:
     
  13. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ruddocks chin was average in his prime but his style was moronic and he made mistakes that caused him to get hit with shots that technically sound and responsible boxers would not get hit with. The fact that he even made it near the top of the HW division is a testament to his athletic talent.
    Average chin, very good durability and recovery

    Morrison had a below average chin that was aggrevated by his agressive overeager temperament and lack of survival skills. But when he was careful he could still stay out of too much trouble like he did against ruddock lewis(yes he lost but he avoided being iced because he was careful) and foreman
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Yeah, slightly worse chin and the Razor would qualify. He makes the cut for the power criteria side of the equation with the Smash, for sure. (as González undoubtedly does)

    How about their contemporary in the HW championship mix: Bruce Seldon? His most infamous KO loss was clearly a bottle job (I disagree with the majority view that it was a dive premeditated by all parties; I think he tasted Mike's power and just sought out the softest patch of canvas he could find) and more to do with heart, but there were plenty other times evincing his china. But the boy could wallop, too.
     
  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    There is also, of course, my boy, Mermelada - the talented, but fatally flawed, manically awkward and athletic Dominican super lightweight nearly-man, Victor Manuel Cayo. :xqw

    Glancing at his page currently, however, I guess his KO rate wasn't all that high - but I remember him seeming pretty dangerous when he was active. Sometimes the eye test is a better indicator of certain not easily quantifiable metrics than BoxRec.

    Could not stand the heat if there was any other live body in the kitchen, though.