Most impressive 6 fight streak at HW? (H2H factored) Is it Usyk? (Read OP)

Got an update for ya. Anthony Joshua is talking about fighting the great and almighty JAKE PAUL !!! Woo hoo !!

 

Completely untrue.

AJ isn't beating Foreman. He is too hittable and too easily hurt.

Fury isn't beating Foreman either. Fury has never faced a prime 2 handed hitter like Foreman. Fury spent his entire career cherry picking fights. And he has shown he can be hurt easily multiple times.

Ali would toy with AJ and Fury and Dubois. He would easily go 6-0 vs them. None of these guys have a snowballs chance in beating Ali.

You are just being unfair. Frazier wasn't shot when he fought Ali. Frazier was fit, motivated and coming off impressive wins.

Foreman is an all time top 10 heavyweight who was in his prime. Are either Fury or Joshua all time top 10 heavyweights? Not a snowballs chance in hell.

You can play this silly game all you like. Even if you include Usyk's cruiserweight resume, his resume does not hold a candle to Ali. Its not even a contest.

 

We can all play these silly games.

1. Fury - a guy who spent his career avoiding fights. Avoided Wlad rematch after beating a old Wlad. Never fought Joshua. Somehow never got in the ring with Zhang, Kabayel, Povetkin, Joyce, and several others. He went life and death vs Wilder who himself has a poor resume. He was arguably gifted a decision vs a debutant MMA fighter.

How exactly is beating Fury some great win? Fury does not hold a candle to Foreman or Frazier. Fury does not have the resume of an all time top 20 heavyweight. Probably not even top 30.

2. Bellew- past his prime and never that great to begin with. Was coming off back to back wins vs a shot Haye. Lost to Stevenson. Hardly some ATG. Patterson is way better than Bellew.

3. Huck - past his prime.

4. Gassiev - has a thin resume and has accomplished next to nothing since.

5. Hunter - only notable win since is over Bakole. Has accomplished next to nothing. Hunter and Gassiev do not have anywhere near the accomplishments of a Quarry and Lyle, for example.

6. Breidis - good win. Excellent win, in fact, but such a close fight merited a rematch.

7. Dubois - a guy who quit off a jab, arguably avoided Parker. Flattened a post prime Joshua. Hardly some ATG. Below Ron Lyle in terms of ability.

8. Chisora- a guy who has lost virtually every big fight he has ever been in. Whereas Norton, Quarry, etc. lost some and won some. Chisora has only ever lost at the top level and he still managed to make it competitive.


We can all play these silly games. Fury isn't beating Foreman let alone easily. If Fury is so great, he wouldn't have spent his whole career cherry picking fights. Its doubtful Fury would even get in the ring with Foreman.

Usyk's resume, while pretty good, does not hold a candle to Ali. Usyk fans have become desperate to proclaim him as a GOAT when he has no such case.

 

Ali's best wins: Foreman, Frazier x 2 (yes, Frazier was in his prime), Liston x 2, Norton x 1 (Yes, Ali won the second fight clearly despite what the Usyk fanboys claim), Shavers (clear win), Lyle, Quarry x 2, Patterson x 2, Bugner x 2 (better than Chisora), Terrell etc.

Its not even a contest including Usyk's cruiserweight resume. They are not remotely comparable.

 

Ironically enough, you’ve forgotten that Tyson already lost to him.

 

Roy Jones could only draw with Tyson so Paul is ahead of him on the greatness rankings. Belfort would KO any version of Holyfield, not even Lennox Lewis could do that to Holyfield, so Lewis is probably really overrated

 

Foreman obliterates both AJ and Fury..,like destroys.

 

The Usyk fanboyism has reached epic levels here. Imagine comparing beating an all time top 10 heavyweight in peak George Foreman to beating Tyson Fury coming off a controversial win vs an MMA fighter.

Fury went life and death vs Wilder who did not have Foreman's jab, durability of punch variety. Foreman throws a better left hook than Wilder, throws a way better left uppercut, throws a way better right uppercut, is far far more durable, has a way better jab, is better in every conceivable way. Yet h2h somehow Fury is going to be favoured over Foreman. Fury wouldn't even sign to fight Foreman and if he did, he is so hittable that he would get stopped.

Frazier wasn't shot in 1974. He was rejuvinated, had come off a terrific win over Bugner. Frazier >>>>>>>>>>>. Dubois.

This is just reaching desperation levels here. Include Usyk's cruiserweight resume as heavyweight. Its not even close. Usyk isn't the GOAT or anywhere near it. He is a great fighter who is the best of his era. That's it.

 

Easily how? He is extremely hittable. He does not have the defense to avoid Foreman. Foreman isn't a twig like Wilder. He has far more punching variety than Wilder does.

Foreman knocks Fury out of the ring in 5 rounds. Styles do indeed make fights and Foreman is about the worst stylistic match up for Fury.

 

This is a handpicked critera to make Usyk look good. Almost every champ who got to 6 title wins in a row except Vitali and Wilder has a better 6 fight streak and while Marcianos 6 fight runs aren't as good hes got 2 of them. Burns and Jack Johnsons got broken up by draws. Jeffries is from the 1800s. Theres a lot of guys without long reigns with better 3,4, 5 fight streaks or 7+ streaks with a better 6 wins just not in a row. Because there was no reason for guys to fight 6 tough guys in a row with no gap fights if they weren't the champion. Usyks fought 3 over ranked opponents twice in a row and lost 20-21 rounds in the process.


I included Buster Douglas because his streak came as a contender and as a contender/non champ thats the best modern 6 fight HW win streak even if only half the guys are contender level.

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Langford II(12) Nat Dewey, Jim Flynn, Jim Barry, Ketchel, Jim Johnson, Kubiak, Jennette, Jeff Clark, Morris Harris, Jennette, Atwater, Lang

Langford III McVeax4,Jim Barryx2

Kaufman(14)Dave Barry, Fred Gardner, Sam Berger, Gardner, Schreck, Dave Barry, Jack Twin Sullivan, Joe Grim, Battling Johnson, Fireman Jim Flynn, Fred Bradley, Mustain, Jim Barry, Tony Ross.

Gunboat(8) Rodel, Willard, Rodel, Jim Flynn, Carl Morris, Tony Ross, Charlie Miller, Langford,

Wills(7) Jeff Clark, McVea, Langford, Langford, McVea, Jeff Clark, Jack Thompson


Wills II John Lester Johnson, Langford, Jeff Clark, Langford, Jennette, Langford

Wills III Ray Bennett, Fulton, Jack Clark, Bill Tate, Jeff Clark, Jack Thompson

Wills IV(13) Langford, Norfolk, Jeff Clark, Jeff Clark, Buddy Jackson, Tut Jackson, Clem Johnson, Homer Smith, Jack Thomson, Barley Madden, Firpo, Weinart, Floyd Johnson

Carl Morris Devere, Tony Ross, Pelkey, Gunboat, Daly, Battling Levinsky, Joe Bonds, Fulton, Andre Anderson

Fulton(9) Langford, Weinart, Porky Dan Flynn, Jack Moran, Carl Morris, Jack Moran, Devere, Gunboat, Porky Dan Flynn

Dempsey(15)Fulton, Terry Kellar, Willie Meehan, Jack Moran,Battling Levinsky, Porky Dan Flynn, Miske, Carl Morris, Gunboat, Willard, Miske, Brennan, Carpentier, Gibbons, Firpo

Miske(17)Lee Anderson, Farmer Lodge, Tom McCarthy, Brennan, Jack Renault, Tony Melchoir, Weinart, Jack Renault, Bob Roper, Al Roberts, Billy Shade, Martin Burke, Bob Roper, Homer Smith, Willie Meehan, Martin Burke, Fulton

Louis I Braddock, Farr, Nathan Mann, Harry Thomas, Max Schmeling, John Henry Lewis

Louis II Musto, Buddy Baer, Conn, Nova, Buddy Baer, Abe Simon

Bivins(10, LHW fights removed)Mauriello, Pastor, Savold, Mauriello, Watson Jones, Valentino, Herbert Marshall, Bettina, Lee Murray, Lee Murray

Ezzard(12)Charles Baksi, Haynes, Maxim, Walcott, Lesnevich, Valentino, Beshore, Louis, Barone, Lee Oma, Walcott, Maxim

Marciano I Louis, Savold, Buonvino, Bernie Reynolds, Harry Matthews, Walcott

Marciano II Walcott, LaStarza, Ezzard Charles, Ezzard Charles, Cockell, Archie Moore.

Ingo Henry Cooper, Archie McBride, Erskine, Neuhaus, Machen, Patterson

Liston Folley, Machen, Howard King, Westphal, Patterson, Patterson

Terrell(9) Cleveland Williams, Folley, Zech, Davis, Foster, Wallitsch, Machen, Chuvalo, Doug Jones

Folley Zech, Bonavena, Foster, Davis, Henry Clark, Davis

Ali I Liston, Liston, Patterson, Chinvalo, Cooper, London

Ali II Mildenberger, Cleveland Williams, Terrell, Folley, Quarry, Bonavena

Ali III Frazier, Foreman, Wepner, Lyle, Bugner, Frazier

Ali IV Coopman, Jimmy Young, Dunn, Norton, Evangelista, Shavers

Frazier(8) Buster Mathis, Manuel Ramos, Bonavena, Zygleweciz, Quarry, Ellis, Foster, Ali

Holmes I Shavers, Norton, Evangelista, Ocasio, Weaver, Shavers

Holmes(7) II Berbick, Leon Spinks, Snipes, Cooney, Cobb, Lucien Rodriguez, Witherspoon

Tyson(8) Pinklon Thomas, Tucker, Biggs, Holmes, Tubbs, Michael Spinks, Bruno, Carl Williams

Buster Douglas Perscell Davis, Halstead, Mike Williams, Berbick, McCall, Tyson

Wlad I(7) Ibragimov, Tony Thompson, Rahman, Chagaev, Chambers, Peter, Haye

Wlad II(7)Tony Thompsn, Wach, Pianeta, Povetkin, Leapai, Pulev, Bryant Jennings

Valuev(10) Larry Donald, John Ruiz, Owen Beck, Monte Barrett, McCline, Chagaev, Bergeron, Liakovich, John Ruiz, Holyfield