Most impressive run: Hopkins, RJJ or Wlad?

People always bring up Jones Lightheavyweight days .
About 20 pounds above his weight and still NOBODY came close to beating him in his prime.
DM beat Hill by decison .Jones KNOCKED out Hill in FOUR .
DM lost to Gonzales. Roy easily beat the breaks off of Gonzales.
And how about Hall .DM had two huge titanric battles with Hall .Roy made Hall look like they pickef someone out of the crowd to fight Roy.
im a huge DM fan. Love his jab .
But even I knew if matched up with Jones DM is going to lose .And more then likely lose pretty bad .
at the time Roy fought for HBO the biggest boxing network at the time.
dM fought for a German boxing promotional group and was paid very well.
But who made more money? ROY .And if DM wanted to fight Roy he would have-and it would have been far his biggest payday AND worldwide exposure .

 

Someone else listed Rahman sure he was lineal briefly but a zombie when he faced Klychko. His unifications against Chagaev then Ibragimov rate considerably higher for me.

 

Jones was most impressive. Vlad? He was bigger than everyone and had a great advantage. Hopkins handpicked the better names, but that was sort of the Floyd approach. Fight guys at the right time with the right styles.

 

His list of IBF 160 lb. challengers is pretty weak. When Antwon Echols is at the top of the list quality wise, it's pretty weak.

He did beat great fighters Trinidad and De Lahoya who were naturally much smaller than him who were moving up.

Keith Holmes and William Joppy were good names, but Holmes had already lost his title to Cherrifi and Joppy had already been punished by Trinidad.

John David Jackson was a good name, but had already been KOd by Jorge Castro.

Simon Brown was a good name, but was way past it and moving up in weight.

 

oh we are talking about those specific years? Why not just the whole careers. At this point. Which would encompass those years. Jones wins out with those years.

 

Because they each had an unbeaten run, and the TS wanted to discuss which run was more impressive. We have done countless career debates in the past.

 

Hopkins

 

No that is fine. It is a good thread. I was at fault for not reading it well. The thread is very clear what you wanted.

 

Roy's run was the most impressive.

Bernard had size advantages over most of his opponents.

Wlad was ultra cautious.

Roy for the most part easily beat his opponents. And it was his 3rd division. He also made history by dropping back from HW to reclaim the LHW titles, after burning muscle to make the weight.

 

The way you think baffles me.

You preferred the way Wlad fought? Really? Ultra negative whilst holding, only using a small variety of punches for the most part?

Roy was exciting, dropping people with body shots and lead hooks and uppercuts etc.

Yes, Chris Byrd was very talented. But look at how big and powerful Wlad was. Also, Byrd wasn't always a HW.

Roy was boxing in his 3rd weight class at LHW.

He clearly won the first Tarver fight. And for me, it was the best win of his career. And that's because he had to burn muscle in a short space of time just to make weight. He was absolutely exhausted in the fight. He was running on fumes at the end. And Tarver was extremely motivated.

When Hopkins fought Tarver, he didn't face the version that Roy did. Mackie Shilstone thinks he was drained due to the weight loss after his appearance in Rocky Balboa. And he trained Hopkins for the Tarver fight.

 

Good post.

I don't rate the Povetkin win as highly as you do.

I rate Povetkin, but Wlad fought in a horribly negative way. And you have to look at the size advantage he held over him.

I rate Roy's devastating win over Griffin higher. It was Roy's 3rd weight class, and he ended the fight in just a single round with a lead uppercut. I don't think I've seen anybody else knock out a guy with a lead uppercut before.

I also rate the Tarver win higher due to the circumstances.