Most impressive win-loss records and unbeaten streaks

richdanahuff · Mar 13, 2018

How about JCC and Duran was 72-1 when he beat Leonard

mcvey · Mar 14, 2018

Ra's Al-Ghul said: ↑

It is written in the Guiness Book of Records (from 2002), but 117 of these were no-decisions (or draws).
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Educate yourself.
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/9019

mcvey · Mar 14, 2018

Ra's Al-Ghul said: ↑

I will rather educate you, that Boxrec is not a adequate source, let alone the only undisputed truth! There are missed a lot of fights, even recent ones (for instance the first defeat of Virchis and Maurice Harris vs. Anthony Thompson among others)! Fightfax is possible more responsible.
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Then provide the names that are not on Greb's Box rec record.Better still ask Klompton!

mcvey · Mar 14, 2018

Ra's Al-Ghul said: ↑

Though I know he was probably viewing these fights live and exclusive.

I did possibly a mistake; it was maybe in the edition of 1998 of Guiness Book of Records, not 2002 (I have both). But anyway that seems to me far more proven than such details in a public website which can be changed by every of their hundreds editors (like of Wikipeadia, but there are it many more), due to they have to verify it before it get printed.
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Don't you think a 2018 source that is dedicated soley to boxing is a more reliable one than a nearly 30 years old general one? Please provide the extra names on his record as requested.

mcvey · Mar 14, 2018

Ra's Al-Ghul said: ↑

No it makes no difference or rather the opposite, as the later one is closer to the time about it refers. But your mathematics are strange; it is nearly twenty years old. While this private site got changed many times since it existed (which is shorter than the other one), even the programming-codes (therefore are the rankings such riddiculous), while mine is bought and official, made by scientists which have to found proofs for anything.
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Scientists!lol

mcvey · Mar 14, 2018

Ra's Al-Ghul said: ↑

No it makes no difference or rather the opposite, as the later one is closer to the time about it refers. But your mathematics are strange; it is nearly twenty years old. While this private site got changed many times since it existed (which is shorter than the other one), even the programming-codes (therefore are the rankings such riddiculous), while mine is bought and official, made by scientists which have to found proofs for anything.
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CyberZone lists his longest undefeated streak as from Jan 1919 until Feb 1923 when he was beaten by Tunney.
107 of which 40 were decisions.

Saad54 · Mar 14, 2018

Wilder!!!

Just kidding.

Duran, Chavez are up there.

mcvey · Mar 14, 2018

Ra's Al-Ghul said: ↑

It was at the Guiness Book specified for the longest undefeated streak (while Chavez has probably the longest winning row). This is the reason why I rate him that high (pound for pound and at Middleweight), aside of the Tunney fights. The second could be Packey McFarland (in the edition of 2001), but even 107 would be more than him (with 65 - 70) and likely anyone else.

I remember even Boxrec listed him less than a decade ago with over three-hundred wins in total (that's more than Stribling and Moore).
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He didn't have 300 fights ,let alone wins!

Jel · Mar 14, 2018

Ra's Al-Ghul said: ↑

Though I know he was probably viewing these fights live and exclusive.

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Klompton literally wrote the book on it. I would trust his actual verified research over any other source and I know he has said boxrec is pretty much on the money in terms of Greb's record. Even taking newspaper decisions into consideration, there is not a 178 fight winning streak.

However, no one is questioning Greb's greatness. His record and opposition bear that out.

BitPlayerVesti · Mar 15, 2018

Ra's Al-Ghul said: ↑

All record which are listed on the Guiness Book have to be verfied before these can be printed.

You missunderstand the point; I never wrote he had 178 wins in row, but wasn't defeated in these official. While all the newspaper decisions count as no contests actual (or were previous arranged as draws, like a competition sparring), I assume.
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It's not really an impressive feat in itself, just a technicality, IIRC he had newspaper losses in that period.

Not that his career was at all unimpressive

Jel · Mar 15, 2018

Ra's Al-Ghul said: ↑

All record which are listed on the Guiness Book have to be verfied before these can be printed.

You missunderstand the point; I never wrote he had 178 wins in row, but wasn't defeated in these official. While all the newspaper decisions count as no contests actual (or were previous arranged as draws, like a competition sparring), I assume.
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Apologies - I meant to write '178 fight unbeaten streak' rather than 'winning streak'. I guess the no decision/newspaper decision era is a bit of a grey area in terms of official unbeaten streaks so it's harder to measure than later eras when there was an official verdict by a referee or judges.

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