Most inconsistent boxer ever?

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  1. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Holyfield was pretty inconsistent in his prime, he’d looked great in some fights and then struggle against guys like Stewart, Cooper, and a past it Dokes
     
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  2. Devon

    Devon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This has James Toney written all over it
     
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  3. Devon

    Devon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Some may be surprised, but Sugar Ray Robinson at 160lbs, he had to rematch lots who he lost to to get revenge, which means he obviously didn't show up for the first fight, but turned it up for the 2nd and he had to do that on several on occasions
     
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  4. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Daniel Jacobs
     
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  5. jquest

    jquest Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Add Derek Chisora to the list as well although he has been better his last few fights nearing the end of his career.
     
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  6. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    Sugar Ray Robinson at 160. Couldn’t hold on to the belt for 5 minutes.. what was he 5x champ ??? I’d rate a Hagler or a monzon over him easily, probably 10 fellas off the top of my head at 160 h2h
     
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  7. Philly161

    Philly161 "Fundamentals are the crutch of the talentless" banned Full Member

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    I mean I love him but duran after lightweight got pretty inconsistent in terms of his training and motivation. But that goes both ways and he turned back the clock several times later in his career.
     
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  9. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    JCC Jr biggest weakness is his weight, his father & Jose Sulaiman started him at 130lbs. All he had to do is to stick around for WBC title shots 130,135, 140, 147 then maybe chase big fights at 154-160. Taking a similar path to DLH, JCC Sr. and the late Jose Sulaiman did everything possible to make JCC Jr an ATG, but its not possible when the boxer doesn't want to sacrifice food/weed to be Great.
     
  10. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    True, he did start out at 130, but a year into his career and he was already at 140. He was only 18 at the time.
    And Carlos Molina beat his ass at 140, so he moved to 147. Where Molina beat his ass again and got robbed for the second time.
    By 21, Chavez could no longer make 147 comfortably. They kept him around that weight but not for long.
    And at 23 Chavez was a middleweight.

    Chavez should have stayed at MW, or at least Super-Middleweight. But now hes a LHW and he is as average as it gets.
     
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  11. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Very hard to have sympathy for boxers who don't want to give-up weed/food. At 130 he could have done serious damage with the WBC-Father, Size & Chin. Talking about Carlos Molina should be on the inconsistent list himself

    Bernard Hopkins hardship forced him to not grow out of 160, it paid off vs Trinidad who made his ATG run at 147 by staying disciplined and never giving up his weight class, until it was time for moving up.

    JCC at 160 was already as limited as DLH at 160, the difference is that DLH sculpted down to 130 just to get the belt, then stuck around at 135 long enough to establish his name, he was already done at 160
     
  12. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    If at the age of 23, Chavez was already a middleweight, and at 25 he was big ass middleweight, I don´t see how he could have stayed at 130 or even 140. He only made 130 because he was a teenager.
     
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  13. dogcatcher

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    I used to call him "hit or miss Holy". Against his best opposition he would show up, only to lose to lesser opponents when he's less motivated.
     
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  14. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Plenty of boxers stayed in the same shape as they were at 18, its very hard if the boxer wants to life a "normal life"
     
  15. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Ten? Which ten would to pick to beat him of the Saint Valentine's Massacre?