Most likely To Defeat Prime Holmes? Foreman Or Frazier?

Well, you definitely made a great case for your assertion. You come across as knowledgeable, and thus an asset to this forum.

 

I'd pick Holmes to beat either, but Frazier would have a much better chance.

While we're at it, I'd pick Tyson, Lewis, Vitali, Wlad, and Fury to beat both too.

 

Lol good luck with wladimir,tyson ,lewis and vitali beating foreman, you will need it

 

I don't see Fury beating Foreman either, but hey @NoNeck is a knowledgeable poster so I respect his opinion.

 

Just like Jimmy Young needed luck and made Foreman talk to God.

 

Yes like always trolling and cherry picking different moments in the career of a fighter to make a point against him.
Just like the luck that rahman had knocking lewis the **** out, sanders raping wladimir and vitali losing against byrd or Tyson getting knocked the **** out by douglas right?

 

It is not a fact of course but out of the guys he mentioned Fury is the one with better tools to do it

 

I think Wlad would have a better chance...I just don't see Fury as in the same class as Foreman at all. He needs either a couple more big wins (beating old man Wlad wasn't a very big deal but Wilder was imo) or needs to stay on the throne a couple of more years (and I don't think he will).

But I admit bias, I don't care much for Fury's fighting style. If Wilder knocked him silly, Foreman would have done the same...and Foreman was a FAR better finisher than Wilder ever was.

But that's just me.

 

How am I trolling? Foreman lost the other fight he had to a cuteish boxer too.

 

Not trolling. Everyone has their opinions, if we all thought the same this forum would suck.

 

Yeah

 

Good points well made ETM. Nice one.

 

In terms of greatness its Larry Holmes by a good margin. His dominance over the heavyweight division. Over 7 years. Joe did wipe out the division in the late 60s but he wasnt the undisputed champ. He has a claim to it.
Peak for peak though is a different arguement. It's a classic matchup.

 

Recently watched Weaver/Holmes. Forgotten classic. Larry was a little off that night. He didnt appear mentally there. Mike Weaver was on the verge of taking the title when Holmes landed that uppercut.
The mark of a great champion to be able to do that when your not at your best. It was borderline desperation for Holmes.

 

I didn't realize how bad Holmes' cold was until I listened to how froggy he was during the post-fight interview. The cold explained a lot of things, including his sweating so bad he had to change his trunks mid-fight! lol

Larry was too sick to even be in the ring, the fact that he knocked Weaver silly was a near-miracle.