Most limited ATG?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by roughdiamond, Jul 1, 2021.


  1. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't bother, the man is obviously nuts.
     
  2. bigtime-skills

    bigtime-skills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He was joking about Duran................... I HOPE:nonono
     
  3. Samtotheg

    Samtotheg Active Member Full Member

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    go ahead and start a lot of arguments used to describe these guys were their athleticism and not their skills
     
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  4. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Of course he was joking, but Samtotheg didn't get it. :rolleyes:
     
  5. scandcb

    scandcb Active Member Full Member

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    You are describing a boxer like Wilder.

    Not boxers like Foreman, Ali and Frasier.
     
  6. Sooncreate3

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    Speaking about boxers who appear crude on film but are legendary ATGs, I think about Stanley Ketchel, Top 5 Middleweights of all time.
     
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  7. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do we have any McGovern footage outside of (likely fixed) Gans fight?
     
  8. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    I also think it was a fix. Lately though I've been doubting it somewhat, since McGovern did also TKO Erne who was LW champion. McGovern was also very fresh and solidly prime for it, whereas Gans had a ridiculous amount of activity in just 2 months alone and was possibly weak. Not saying it is legit, but these are things to consider imo.

    I think it is possible the fight with Gans was fixed but McGovern himself didn't know it, so the film would be good for assessing his style.
     
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  9. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    If it was a fix, I've never seen anything to suggest McGovern had any involvement.

    If think there's a possiblity it was on the level, and the 133Ib weight limit just weakened Gans enough to make the poor showing. But one of the papers did report odd betting too.

    I think it most likely was a fix, but we will never know for sure, and I think there's a fair case against it being fixed.
     
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  10. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd say an old George Foreman being outboxed to decision losses.
     
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  11. Eddie Ezzard

    Eddie Ezzard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I was. Still shaking my head in bewilderment it was taken seriously. Albeit by someone who should not be.
     
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  12. Samtotheg

    Samtotheg Active Member Full Member

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    frazier a 1 handed go forward fighter who fought well at one range

    ali , who had no lead hook no uppercuts couldnt body punch didnt lead really only countered had no inside fighting game etc

    yall are just some of the dumbest people !
     
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  13. Samtotheg

    Samtotheg Active Member Full Member

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    he is a lot more skilled than one thinks!
     
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  14. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Bye for now! banned Full Member

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    Sung Kil Moon. Bueno and Galaxy made him look about as sophisticated as the Twilight series.
     
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  15. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Bye for now! banned Full Member

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    @McGrain
    Can you ban this guy just as a solid?