Most over- and underrated non-heavyweights on this forum?

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  1. turnip

    turnip Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Overrated
    Hopkins
    Underrated
    Jones-nelson-tonney
     
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  2. N_ N___

    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Overrated:
    Middleweight Robinson
    Bob Foster
    Gerald McClellan

    Under:
    Hamed, Judah, and every other fighter who gets disliked due to personality
     
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  3. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing

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    Underrated-L Honeyghan
    Overrated- Harry Greb
     
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  4. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Maxie Rosenbloom, Philly Jack O'Brien, PRIME Hamed - all so underrated.
     
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  5. Berlenbach

    Berlenbach Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Overrated: Toney, Hopkins, Sugar Ray Leonard

    Underrated: Don Curry, Bob Foster, Harry Greb
     
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  6. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    BRUNO ARCARI - Underrated
     
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  7. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    That probably includes Mayweather and Leonard too (a few of the posters on here seem to despise Leonard personally).
     
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  8. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Wow, that's almost the exact opposite of where I would have listed them! :D
     
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  9. slash

    slash Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    azumah nelson aka "the professor" is criminally underrated.
     
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  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    Under rated:

    Gans, Leonard, Wilde

    Over rated:

    Jersey Joe, Young.
     
    lufcrazy, Dec 12, 2015
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  11. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Underrated:

    Hopkins, Bob Foster


    Overrated:

    LaMotta, Burley
     
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  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I think, at the time he took them, LaMotta beat more ranked contenders than any middleweight. Ever.

    Now, Burley didn't do that kind of work. But Archie Moore named him the best fighter he ever saw. Hiawatha Gray named him the best fighter he ever saw. Ray Arcel named him among the best he ever saw. Eddie Futch named him among the best he ever saw. Angelo Dundee refused to name a GOAT, but when pushed, he listed several contenders and the list included Burley.

    Great fighters for conflicting reasons (not that LaMotta is short on admiration or Burley is short on top men beaten!) named overrated - probably the most interesting picks we've seen Bokay.
     
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  13. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We've done LaMotta to detach, McGrain, and his list includes a lot of losses to the ranked MWs he met and some of the best wins are quite disputed. He also lost to a couple of WWs.

    I really wonder if he beat more ranked contenders than any other MW. Do you mean ranked MW contenders by the Ring?

    Burley also swapped wins and losses with the top contenders of his day, and to justify the high ranking not only at MW but also p4p that I've seen him get here, you have to go very much on what Futch and Arcel said. But by that same token Dempsey would perhaps be the top HW ever.
     
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  14. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yeah MW contenders ranked by Ring. Nobody beat more I don't think.

    I think Dempsey is irrefutably great also.

    If you fight loads of top guys, and if you're fighitng, sometimes, 3 times in two months, you always lose. Everyone. Anyone.
     
    McGrain, Dec 12, 2015
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  15. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    I'm dubious on Burley tbh but I'm giving him then benefit of the doubt because the little film we have shows someone similar in style to Jones Jr who everyone considers one of the best ever, plus we know Burley has victories over the likes of Moore and Williams who are undeniably great themselves.
     
    lufcrazy, Dec 12, 2015
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