most over rated fighter ever= ROBINSON

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  1. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    I agree that many fighters from the past are EXTREMELY overrated. However, SRR was the real deal. Let alone the fact that we don't even have access to see his great welterweight fights in his prime. The man was amazing. Chin, footwork, speed, power, intellegence, every punch in the book, and could be very aggressive. When Ali admits that you are better than him pd 4 pd, you know that you're special.
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  2. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

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    If you can't believe Muhamed Ali (of all people) when he says someone is better than him, then you are a ***fill in the blank***
     
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  3. thanosone

    thanosone Love Your Brother Man Full Member

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    SRR is one of the best. Too bad he fought in an era full of bums. I have seen maybe like 3 fights and I have to say the man looked good for that time. I think a lot of modern boxers beat him. Specially Hearns.
     
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  4. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  5. Bomber

    Bomber Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hearns is kinda like kryptonite for boxers. Dont look much but ****s you up.
     
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  6. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm one of the few people who do not rate him #1 P4P/ATG but he is not over rated.
     
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  7. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    accomplishment wise and greatness he's #1, he was undoubtly the best of his era. but h2h wise with fighters from different era's he can be beat.
     
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  8. stevebhoy87

    stevebhoy87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can't really see hearns beating robinson at welter, the one weakness that hearns has is his chin and at welter robinson power is probably equal or not far off hearns. Hearns probably knocks robbo down butr he's getting back up and i see him stopping hearns probably around 6 or 7. If leonard can stop him then robinson can. But i don't really fancy any 147 fighter ever to beat robinson. I do think hagler and monzon could beat him though but robinson could beat them too. Pick em fights for me.
     
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  9. Sweet Pea

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    At MW I'd pick a few to beat him, none at WW.
     
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  10. Sweet Pea

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    He fought in one of the best eras for boxing of all time. He beat some of the best MW's of all time when past his prime above his best weight, after dominating at WW. Have a clue about what you're talking about before posting next time.

    SRR would KO Hearns. Not because he's an old timer either, but because Hearns liked to brawl, and SRR would not even try to box with a fighter like Hearns, he would lure him into a fight, and SRR's granite chin would prevail over Hearns mediocre one.
     
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  11. Sweet Pea

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    Why do you say that? Accomplishments wise he's really likely not even #1 to be honest, it was how he did it.
     
    Sweet Pea, Jan 30, 2008
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  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesus.

    I'm all for fresh debate on a thing, but Ali and Mayweather as better technical boxers than SRR? What are you on?

    1 - Sam Langford
    2 - Sugar Ray Robinson
    3 - Henry Armstrong
    4 - Harry Greb
    5 - Ezzard Charles

    Something like that for me, although it changes.
     
    McGrain, Jan 30, 2008
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  13. rusticraver

    rusticraver Well-Known Member Full Member

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    H2H who beats him? Floyd?

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    rusticraver, Jan 30, 2008
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  14. ron u.k.

    ron u.k. Boxing Addict banned

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    please go away.
     
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  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Tell you what though;

    Cocoa Kid
    Jack Chase
    Charley Burley
    Holman Williams
    Eddie Booker


    These ara all guys Sugar ducked out of fighting. And if he had fought them all, in my view, they would be four of the five best fighters he'd ever fought (1 - Burley 2 - Gavlin 3 - Williams 4 - Eddie Booker 5 - Cocoa Kid, something like that). In addition he basically negotiated himself out of a fight with Moore.

    Tunero, Carter and Lytell were some of the other tougher customers he managed to avoid taking on - in all of those fights, all of those dates - and Aaron Tiger Wade had to shadow him for years before finally getting a shot near the end of his career.

    I'd say that the best fighters Sugar DIDN'T fight are better than the best fighters he DID fight - and that has always troubled me.
     
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