Most overrated aspects of a heavyweight?

Oh I know peroidisation isn't new. It's not exactly a complicated subject for an athlete to think of.

I asked due to Rocky probably being around 190 pounds during those runs. That heavier load must have surely impacted him.

I wouldn't be surprised if his runs contained long distances of walking interspersed with running, like the older bare knucklers.

 

Current list of unwritten forum rules

Grigoryan is the best. Ever.
Fitsimmons is top 100 pfp
Ike Ibeabuci is unbeatable
Primo Carnera is a god and should be treated as such

I think the one to add is that Marciano manages to turn every thread about himself one way or another

 

David Haye was 210 pounds and was an athletic specimen. Rocky Marciano was a 180 pounder that was closer to a modern day light heavyweight, than to anything like a David Haye. Heck, Artur Beterbiev > Rocky Marciana any day.

 

Thanks but no thanks!

 

Honestly, I don't see a case for him outside the top 10 if you rate his era at all.

Maybe I ought to do a thread on it.

 

I don't really rate his era too much. Plus in that era he didn't really pile up a résumé that's worthy of top 10 consideration for me, my criteria is roughly

Résumé (50%)
Longevity (15%)
Achievements (15%)
Weight movement (20%)

I have him in the early 20s on my current list

 

Ike Ibeabuchi's...everything? 2 good fights and he's suddenly a combination of Liston's cracking power and brute strength+chuvalos chin+fraziers workerate and volume+of course he also had superb technique and timing. They apply this to ALL his fights, kind of like when people talk about "Tokyo Douglas" or "FOTC Frazier" as if those are the only versions that exist. And of course they use the heaviest weights available to compensate for him being 6'2 in case his oppoment has a reach or height advantage. Disagree with any of this and you're obviously stuck in the past and cant get over how boxing and modern nutrition have evolved. Funny thing is, people get mad even if you pick modern guys over him!

Jerry Quarry has achieved a niche protected class that overlooks all his flaes and highlights his best qualities. The obly flaw his fans acknowledge are his tendency to cut (since they cant avoid it). It pains me to write this because i honestly love quarry, fun to watch, hard working, always exciting. He could be a calm cool and collected technician 1 minute and a savage brawler the next minute. A predecessor to holyfield im some ways.

Bowe's resume and chin or overrated af. He had a very blatantly and carefully managed career and somehow avooded so many big names. People seem to confuse talent with actual performance.

 

Bowe's inside game.

 

They act like he was Roberto Duran on steroids. I don't get where all the hype comes from. In which fight did he display incredible infighting skills?

 

He turned his punches nicely to sneak them around guard and he mixed his shots well... But... His inside defense was porous, to put it politely. He often gave up distance to take a pounding.

 

He doesn't have the quantity of other fighter, but he has some great wins.

I'll do a thread making the case for him, when I get the chance

 

He definitely does have some great wins.

 

Holyfield. He bashed up a man who weighed 30lbs or so less and now he's the greatest infighter in HW history