Most Overrated Boxers by the online community from this list.

Tito...

ODLH gave him a boxing lesson and fans in here will argue Tito clearly won..lmao

 

Hopkins, the two best fighters he fought when he was a middlweight beat him, and Calzaghe made him just look ridiculous.

 

Tarver was still hanging about at that weightclass and was a top ranked contender at the weight, considering the fight he gaves Jones first time around whose to say he couldnt have possibly KO'd Jones in his prime? yes its a long shot but he did win his vacated belt and a Jones who opened up more instead of hanging against the ropes who knows?

 

I give Jones credit, had he proved himself vs tougher competition he may deserve some of the hype he currently gets however he could arugably hold his own with a lot of fighters but leaving that question mark over his quality.

Calzaghe gets a lot of hate for fighting bums but he was avoided by a lot of fighters at the time

I remember him calling out Jones after his stoppage win over Mcintyre (Nielson-Tyson undercard) in 2001 but to no avail

However Joe earns a lot of credit and had a lot of bad luck due to the Sven Ottke fiasco. Ottke robbed both Brewer and Mitchell of their IBF and WBA titles whilst Joe was able to beat both of them convincingly should have unified the division long ago but Ottke refused to fight him

Although personally im disapointed a fight with Beyer or Lucas didnt materialize at some point as they both held the WBC title for a few fights, despite the belt being passed around like the village bike

But he redeemed himself by beating Lacy for the IBF then Kessler for the WBA/WBC belts and cleaned out the division to move up and beat Hopkins for the unofficial title

 

Some of these opinions, are so ****ing ******ed.

 

Tarver would have got a shot against Jones but lost to Harding.. So Jones fought Harding instead.

 

I think Hatton should be on that list the win over Tszyu made him out to be an all time great at 140 .

 

Yup.Biggest ducker of all time with a **** resume to boot.

Put a worm on a hook mate.There's always food for a hunter on ESB.Here,I'll share mine with you:good
I knew you'd have something to say about the nonsense regarding Roy.

 

:thumbsup

 

Hi Jordan,

I respect your opinion, but I couldn't disagree more.

James Toney was a class act. When he was young and in shape, he was a truely outstanding fighter. He should be remembered as a true great, but Unfortunately when he hit his late 20's, he began to lose all discipline, and his record should be better than what it actually is. But when Roy fought him in 94, James was undefeated at 26 years old, and he was a clear favourite going into the fight, being classed as one of the top 2 or 3 fighters in the world, at the time.

No he never cleaned out the 168 division. But as always, there were circumstances involved. Benn desperately wanted to fight Roy, and Roy was willing to fight Benn, but Don King wanted to tie Roy to a three fight contract, and Roy wouldn't consider it. He told Don, that he just wanted the one fight deal, and Don wouldn't budge. Eubank was never at all viable. He's admitted on numerous ocassions, that he'd have been awkward for Roy, but he never chased the big fights in the U.S. He was happy defending his belt at home for Frank. Unless Frank had the money (which he didn't) to bring Roy across to the U.K. it was never going to happen. Now at the time, Toney was the best fighter at 168. After Roy embarrassed him, he didn't really need to try and clean out the division, So he turned his attentions to the 175 division instead.

DM was happy defending his belt in Germany for good money. HBO offered him $5m to fight Roy in the U.S. At first he agreed, and then he pulled out. He then agreed a second time, only to pull out a second time. Nobody at the time could have expected Roy to fight in Germany. You only had to look at some of Ottke's wins, to see the disgraceful judging.

Tarver lost to Eric Harding in an eliminator, and Roy then fought Eric Harding, who gave Roy a really tough nights work.

John Ruiz wasn't a great heavy, but it's never easy for a former 168 fighter to move up and beat a top ten ranked heavy. You can count on one hand how many fighters have had success moving up. Despite Ruiz not being an ATG, that was a big risk for Roy to take.

You don't think he risked his debatable chin, against a 16 and a half stone heavyweight who'd knocked Holy down?

I agree with you regarding Roy fighting at Cruiser. He could have fought at cruiser after he'd fought Ruiz. But at the time, he never gave it a seconds thought. Tarver crashed the post fight press conference with Ruiz, and was constantly goading Roy and bad mouthing him all through 2003. He really got under Roy's skin, and Roy took the bait. This whole cruiserweight quest that Roy currently has, is just an excuse to prolong his career. He was never bothered about that division. He definitely could have been a five weight world champion.

Joe will always be considered the greatest fighter at SMW because he had 44 fights there, and he unified the division. But it took him 9 years, and although Kessler and Lacy were great wins, they weren't great fighters. Roy only had 6 fights at the weight and then moved up. So on achievements, Joe is quite rightly considered the number 1. But Roy was the best fighter to ever fight at that weight.

Regards, Loudon.

 

Sven Warddke

 

Froch for me. Slick fighters pick that guy apart.

The poll is ****ed. One post about why the Klits are overrated yet they lead the poll. What is overrated about two brothers who have dominated and cleaned out the division? Wait for it, here it comes................."Their competition."

 

I'll bet you thought Bute would destroy him as well.:think
Maybe they lead the poll because people don't actually dislike them but despise their spastic fans.
The people have spoken.Deal with it.

And so do you for such an accurate post Earl.Can you do something about the post I've highlighted?
Right between the eyes would be lovely.:gun

 

Hi mate,

This is my perspective on an earlier fight with Tarver.

Roy going into that first fight with Tarver, wasn't physically and mentally at 100% He didn't really want to drop back down for Tarver, because his dream fight was a fight against Tyson. Mike was finished at that point, but it still would have been an absolutely huge fight. Roy left his Ruiz weight on for a while, in the hope that his advisor Murad Muhammad could get him the fight. Shelly Finkle wanted it, and Roy and Mike wanted it. There was even talk of them having two fights. But apparently Don King, and contractual dispute with Showtime, stopped the fight from taking place.

While this was happening, as I said in my previous post, Tarver was getting under Roy's skin. So in the end, Roy took the fight. He was a ripped 200 for Ruiz, and he had to get back down to 175 for Tarver. It was reported that he had a nightmare burning the muscle away. Coach Merk says he did nothing more than run for a good few months, before he even went into his routine 7 week camp. Roy himself said, that he never thought losing the weight would be as hard as what it was.

So, he went into the fight at nearly 35, with 49 fights, and he'd had the hardest camp of his life. So physically he wasn't in top shape, and because the Tyson fight had fallen through, he wasn't mentally at 100% After 9 rounds, Roy had nothing left, and he was running on fumes. I think it was a very close fight, but I think Roy won by at least 2 or 3 rounds.

Antonio Tarver on the other hand, went into that fight, at 100% both physically and mentally. Although they were the same age, Tarver was a lot fresher than Roy. He didn't turn pro til 96, when he was 27 years old. He'd hounded Roy all year, and he was 100% motivated. He'd always been jealous of Roy since they fought each other at 14 years of age. This was Tarver's dream fight, and he was in peak condition.

But despite him being in peak condition, he couldn't beat Roy. I honestly think that Roy fought that fight at about 75% of his capabilities. But obviously that's only my opinion, and I respect yours. But if Tarver couldn't beat Roy, when Roy wasn't at his best, you'd have to assume, that Roy at 100% would beat Tarver. That's how I see it. Obviously we know what happened in the second fight, and that was a great shot. But I think Roy at his best beats Tarver easier than he did in 2003.

Regards, Loudon.

 

yeah.like Taylor or Dirrell.oh wait,didn't they both lost to Froch?:huh