Fact: If Calzaghe wins, per definition Kessler was overrated. If Kessler wins Calzaghe was overrated.
If any of us made out he was like any of the above we would of mentioned their names. Anyway Peter, Pacqiauo, Miranda, Pavlik, Hatton and both Klitschko's are overrated.
They have names on their records but Calzaghe would destroy all of the above In that list, names are overused to judge a fighters talent. Wright struggled with Sam Soliman's punch volume, Calzaghe's Is superior and more accurate and Wrights undersized above Middle. Hopkins has cherry picked weak fighters to look good at the moment. Plus he let himself be outworked by Taylor whos ****.
I think most fighters are rated just fine........ Some posters seem to give their favorite fighters way to much credit but its only natural. Hey everyone shits all over Taylor and I'm sure most people rank Hatton and Calz's over him but in reality Jermaine has fought, defeated or drawed with fighters more skilled than anyone one on Hatton's and Calz's resumes combined. As old, annoying and/or boring you find Hopkins, Winky or Spinks you can't deny theri caliber of skill.
You have a point with the name example......but you must admit it is an excellent way to further solidify your legacy. I think Calzaghe is a supreme talent but he has surely underacheived in the "resume" department. Kessler in my opinion is his greatest name and who has Kessler really beat? I think its an unfortunate situation due to the lack of true greatness in the division.
[/quote] the legit light heavy champion, who hopkins whupped from corner to corner and then the number 1 middleweight contender, who hopkins bullied for 7 rounds are weak opposition? i'll admit that hopkins is fighting more for paydays/legacy than for true challenges (he's not fighting erdei or dawson anytime soon), but if THIS is cherry-picking weak opposition then ask yourself, really, truly, what is calzaghe/his management doing???
the legit light heavy champion, who hopkins whupped from corner to corner and then the number 1 middleweight contender, who hopkins bullied for 7 rounds are weak opposition? i'll admit that hopkins is fighting more for paydays than for true challenges (he's not fighting erdei or dawson anytime soon), but if THIS is cherry-picking weak opposition then ask yourself, really, truly, what is calzaghe/his management doing???[/quote] oh common, challenging a natural light middle to a fight a light heavy is major cherry picking. winky is a massive name on nards resume, but the name alone does not tell the whole story. winky was in bad shape, the weight did not suit him at all.
[/QUOTE] winky comports himself pretty good at middle, no? and yes winky didn't carry the weight well, but i think that you have to give credit to hopkins for taking the challenge. he didn't know that winky would look like a zombie at 170, it was the best combination of name and skills that could be made.
Oscar. There are actually some on this board that have Oscar in the top 50 or so ATG's. atsch Hell Oscar has had only 5 fights where he faced the very best .. in their primes ... and he lost them all. 0 and 5 against the elite. You can not put a class B fighter in with ATG lists. No way! PFP king sure. ATG nope!
You're funny. That fight was in 1994, was the first time Wright ever fought more than 8rds, was fighting in a foreign country, and despite being credited as being KD'd I believe 5 times still kept the fight close. According to Wright only one of the KD's was legit.
Calzaghe is the most underrated boxer here... Seems like nobody here believes he's a dangerous fighter just because he tends to slap. Yet people forget quite a few a important elements about Joe. He's throws combo quicker than anybody else, period. He has perhaps the best stamina than any other fighter (all weight class combined) He's boxing senses/skills are up to par with any other top p4p. He defense skills/reflexes/footwork makes him extremely hard to hit. He can brawl and he can box. If that not enough, he's got a solid chin. When you take all this into account, you can easily realize why he's almost impossible to beat. Sure, his opponents selection have been questionable, but after he will have won all the super middleweight belts, Americans will still underrate him just 'cause his a brit.
I dont know about that, I think Peter is what he is. We all know hes pretty one dimensional, but I would definitely say he is the most exciting young fighter to watch, because he knocks people out. Thats why people WANT him to be the savior of the division.