Most overrated HW of all time.

Riddick Bowe was 21 when he fought Lennox Lewis in the 1988 Olympics. Lewis was 23.

 

Thank you JT. :good I dunno but this is a subject I just can't leave alone. Probably because I see otherwise good, knowledgable posters coming up with biased, unfair crap. I'd love to get a couple of these guys in a bar or somewhere where they can't wriggle away or ignore my points/facts if said points/facts don't fit in with their opinion. :yep

 

I must be a fool I have JJ at no2 behind Ali,and Rocky just scraping in tothe top 10at 9.

 

Riddick Bowe. People always say that if he had more discipline and trained harder, he could've been one of the best ever. Well....guess what?....he didn't....and he wasn't.

 

You know the song LOVE and MARRIAGE?the line that goes "you cant have one without the other ",Lewis,s resume is hurt bythe 2 kos to average fighters,but he would be a hard nights work for any champion,big ,skilled could box ,punch,chin so so.head to head he might have beat 80% of the champs that went before him,there againsome of the bombers might have got him out of there.I have a gut feeling he will be drastically re evalued in years to come and placed higher than he generally is today,rather like Marciano who when he retired wasnt rated with Dempsey and Louis,[and still wouldnt be for me].

 

At the risk of going round in circles here, the sustained performance Douglas put in to beat Tyson was vastly superior to anything Rahman and McCall did ever did, let alone against Lewis.

The fact that Douglas didnt repeat this performance doesnt matter in this particular debate.

What matters is that it took a superb performance to wrest the title off Tyson. It did not take a superb performance to wrest it off Lewis.

 

I stand corrected.

Have been given a bum steer on this, need to double-check sources!

My argument on the relevence of the Bowe Lewis amateur contest is now much less valid than I thought. The smaller developmental difference should still be factored in the analysis of the two though.

Bowe may have been psyched by the loss, but I personally doubt it. He was a different man as a pro in the early 90s, especially coming off the stellar win over Holyfield. Bowe was scared of Gonzalez as an amateur but thrashed him as a pro.

 

Well put. (That's a devastating perspective to articulate!)

 

Hahahaha, that's just wicked.

 

Hahahaha, i loved the minority view comment, great stuff. Don't get me wrong, i read your Tyson posts most intently and do try to see your points. Zak just says the same monotonous thing again and again. In other topics he digs substancially deeper, maybe Lewis is just a gee up

 

I don't know how you feel about Roy Jones, but Jack Johnson reminds me a lot of Jones at Light Heavy. He had God-given talent but seldom used it.

 

These are all very good points. I would only add that ring generalship in and of itself counts for nothing. Only cleanly landed punches score in boxing.

 

Big Jeff. In todays twelve rounders Corbett would have had a near shut out in their return go. By most accounts of the day sailor Tom, though badly mauled over the last five rounds of their 25 rounder, was far and clearly ahead after the twentieth. Both of these bouts give a clear idea of how often Jeff would had lost going head to head against the all time greats....as in many times. Tunney, Charles, Walcott along with others not usually in the top five all clear winners over the boiler maker.

 

Frank Bruno was rated high enough to be granted not 1
Not 2
Not 3

But 4 Shots at a World Championship..

With the type of skill levels he posessed .

Frank has to be in the running...

 

Thankyou for your input but this forum dose not need another vilage idiot with a chip on his shoulder about Rocky Marciano.