Most overrated HW of all time.

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  1. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Sir you clearly understand exactly how completely overrated Lewis is. Believe me, there are people around here who say he was the GOAT!!!!! It's insane. Like I said, he wasn't even the best HW of his era. Holyfield was CLEARLY greater, and Tyson, too for that matter, although I'll admit that's at least arguable.
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Robert i've no wish to fall out with you over this but you're opinion where Lewis is concerned clearly can't be trusted.

    It's fair enough for you to dislike him - I understand why - but i'd suggest that your dislike makes it impossible for you to make an unbiased view.

    Your dislike for him shines through in this post.
     
  3. McGrain

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    P4P Hollyfield may have been greater. As a heavyweight it's hard to see how this statement can be defended - unless you're disregarding head to head alltogether?

    Anyone who says Lewis is the GOAT has work to do and it's fair to say they'd be overating him.
     
  4. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    No offense taken my friend.
    I just dont think much of Lewis as a fighter & nothing can really change my mind on that.:good
     
  5. McGrain

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    Fair enough.
     
  6. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Southside Slugger Full Member

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    Lewis is in no way in any shape or form the G.O.A.T. but he's the best HW of his era, and a better HW than Holyfield or Tyson.
     
  7. mr. magoo

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    Joe Louis is the most overrated heavyweight of all time..........Period..............
     
  8. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    i totally buy that he was overated to early and it's still in the mindset to day to be a media driven scary man...ripped the boxing abilty out of him he had a good jab for such a small short reached guy. he outjabbed tony tucker and parried lewiss jab with it.
     
  9. Zakman

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    The supposed "best" of the doesn't get starched by guys like McCall or Rahman, or fight old versions of Holyfield or Tyson, and not fight Bowe at all. But then, there's always excuses for all of that, right? How convenient.

    Evander Holyfield doesn't need any excuses, he never got laid out early by second raters, and he beat two of the top guys of the era when it mattered. And Tyson dominated in a way that Lewis could only dream of!
     
  10. Vantage_West

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    i would put him top 5 he was only beaten by lucky shots not saying when your punching somone you are lucky to land but mccall didnt mean to ko him with that shot and rahman had hurt lewis before hand

    great inside fighter great outside fighter

    i feel people say he had a weak chin becuase he was so damn good that somthing had to give. and becuase he was koed twice ( by maybe the best countershot by McCall and rahman caught him badly when he wasnt defending).

    his chin wasnt iron but it was above average he took flush hits from
    tua, tyson, vitali, ruddock, briggs, holy...his career is a roll call of hard hitters and great fighters. some still fighting today

    to say he was in control of a weak division is rubbish stop trying to undermine his achievements
     
  11. Vantage_West

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    anyways most overated for me would be george foreman he was a tully hard hitting guy but maybe the worse skills i have everseen from any champion only darchinyan is in the same catagory. low defence went in hands low was slow and easily hit...it was his power,size and jaw that got him through and i feel it's almost unfair that he is rated as an amazing fighter (his comeback was very impressive) when most of the top men now have by far better skills abilty power speed chin but get disregarded on when foreman was by far less skiled and able.
     
  12. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    who did dempsey fight cant remember one firpo i rember ....got knocked out the ring in the first round gastly business
     
  13. Zakman

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    Dempsey got up and WON that fight. When Lewis hit the canvas, the fight was OVER. That's the difference between a top ten great, and a borderline top 15 fighter
     
  14. McGrain

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    Dempsey would have been allowed to continue in the McCall fight, of course.

    Perhaps the difference is era?
     
  15. Zakman

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    If Lewis had been allowed to continue in the McCall fight he woulda ended up like he did against Rahman. Personaly I wish they had let it go on, then there wouldn't be all these excuses.