Most people don't have a clue about PBF-Pac

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  1. boxing_master

    boxing_master Loyal Member banned

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    Yea he shut him out but never really hurt the smaller guy
    why would marquez lie he already admitted he is a very good fighter he smart and he even picks him to beat pac

    whats wrong with him telling the truth when he says mayweather has no power?
     
  2. Real-G

    Real-G Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes he did !! He took so many of Zab tools away that Zab fouled him to keep from getting KOed.
    Floyd took away Zab speed by smothering him. Took away his foot speed by cutting off the ring.
    Finally he took Jab endurance and the power of his punches by going to his body.

    Zab had literally ran out of answer to keep Floyd from advancing on him.
    By the 9 th round Zab was nothing more then a punching Bag!
     
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  3. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nice work Pimp.

    The funny thing is people think manny's left hand is going to have laser like precision all night long.

    What people forget to understand is, it's REALLY hard to nail FLoyd with the same repeated shots. you might be able to get 1 or 2 of those shots in, but he'll make the necessary adjustments and ensure he won't get continually tagged with the same punches.

    I'm really starting to believe this won't be competitive at all. I just don't know how Manny is going to deal with Mayweather's defense, counterpunching, accuracy and the fact he's finally for the first time since probably fighting JMM, the naturally larger man in the ring.
     
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  4. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The whole Judah thing is an exaggeration, Judah won 3 rounds at the most and 2 of those were rounds 1 and 2 were Floyd did very little and just measured Zab out.
     
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  5. J.BULLA

    J.BULLA Well-Known Member Full Member

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    In my opinion

    Floyd is too big
    Can cause PAC problem by tying him up when PAC gets close, wearing him down
    Is too good at maintaining the right distances

    PAC doesn't want it close he wants to get in and out

    Paulie Malignaggi is a bit of biased clown bug his ****ysis of the fight on sky sports was pretty spot on

    Hope manny wins though

    Floyd has all the advantages and PAC takes more risks in the ring , so why more people aren't tooting for PAC seems strange to me
     
  6. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There's a difference between having power, and knocking a guy out everytime you step in the ring.

    FLoyd doesn't KO guys anymore because he doesn't go for the kill. Why chance getting hit with a shot you don't see when you're already up by 7 or 8 rounds.

    Once again, JMM can say any ridiculous garbage he wants, but if Floyd had ZERO power, than why is that all these 160 LB plus fighters that come in on fight night just not go for broke against him, take his best shots, charge at him and try to knock him out?

    It's not one punch KO power, but there's definitely enough pop in those punches to stun MUCH bigger opponents who usually weigh 1-2 weight divisions more than FLoyd on fight night. Hard for me to believe that Pacman isn't going to get hurt significantly in this fight when he starts getting tagged with laser-like counterpunches.
     
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  7. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd has most of the advantages. He has the better defense, he's taller, he's bigger, has the higher Ring IQ, and the longer reach.

    Pacquiao's not good on the inside, he's vulnerable to right hands (look at how much Marquez and Bradley hit him with right hands), and he can't cut off the ring.
     
  8. Bald_Toad

    Bald_Toad Ring Title Full Member

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    where were the laser-like counterpunches against maidana? mayweather had trouble timing maidana coming in, so either maidana is that elusive or mayweather's reflexes are gone. if you actually watch these maidana fights mayweather doesn't land much of anything that is laser-like or has any type of steam behind it.
     
  9. YCGS

    YCGS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You realize you're agreeing with me, right? In both scenarios you have Maidana doing well at first, then losing. My point, whether you think Floyd had to adjust or not, was that if a scrub like Maidana can be close with Floyd after 5 rounds, then SURELY a much better fighter such as Pac could do much better.

    Pac fans seem to think Pac is going to one-punch Floyd, and Floyd fans seem to think Floyd is going to start timing Pac after a round or two. SOME Floyd fans think Floyd is going to come out all attack and test Pacs chin. What I'm saying is that the history of these two says these ideas are nonsense.
     
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  10. Windigo

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    You prove my point. There was no defensive adjustment. You cant nsme one. Zab tired and Floyd applied pressure. If you think that will work in Manny you are a dumbass.
     
  11. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well I mentioned this serveal times in previous posts, but you want to do the immature thing and select certain pieces of my post.

    Castillo and Maidana have a DIFFERENT aggressive style to Pacman. They were larger men in the ring than FLoyd, both strong inside fighters, and did their best work when Floyd was pinned on the ropes. DO you care to dispute any of theose claims I mentioned?

    Pacman is a shorter guy who is a bad inside fighter, bad outside fighter, can't bully guys on the inside with his strength, and is carrying an almost half a foot reach disadvantage in this fight. This is the FIRST time FLoyd will be the naturally larger man in the ring since he took on Marquez in 2009 and Hatton in 2007, 2 fights that didn't end too well for the opposition.

    So yes, his laser like shots will be there all night long when he's facing someone whose style of aggression is jumping in and out of the trading pocket which almost always occurs in and around the center of the ring.

    I'm trying my best to give you an actual detailed explanation. You can just dismiss it if you'd like and continue to think in you're narrow-minded, bias format. Enjoy.
     
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  12. kiwi_boxer

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    I was thinking exactly this...

    :deal
     
  13. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd started slowing down on Hatton in the latter rounds???

    That's new to me, in fact I would say the direct antithesis of that statement occurred. I saw Hatton getting frustrated by around roun 9, I saw his punch output decrease, and I saw FLoyd tagging alot more cleanly in the last few rounds before he ended up knocking him out.

    I really wonder how many people actually watch fights or just talk out their ass with baseless, nonsensical comments like that.
     
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  14. Bald_Toad

    Bald_Toad Ring Title Full Member

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    if anything the more weight drained and aggressive you are the more you should be getting hit by laser-like counterpunches from a technical surgeon. you are saying that since pacquiao fights more unorthodox and elusive than castillo and maidana that he will be getting hit with much more precision. obviously a troll who had a little too many red bulls this afternoon.

    if someone chooses to fight in the center of the ring against a counter puncher and only pick spots to be aggressive then they will not give opportunities to counter as much as someone who is going gung ho and trying to maul you from the opening bell. look at the judah fight where judah chooses to be aggressive only in spurts, mayweather is forced to be the aggressor for the majority of the fight, not the counter puncher.
     
  15. mafioso

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    pac jab and right hook gonna be neutralized fairly quick in my opinion! pac will have to win this fight with one arm