Most people don't have a clue about PBF-Pac

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  1. YCGS

    YCGS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    First off.. I'M not a Pac fan...secondly...never did I EVER say Pac would use any strategy that Maidana used. What I DID say is that Maidana was effective for the first 4 or 5 rounds and the last round of their first fight. It looks like Pac will use an aggressive volume attack and if you think Floyd will just be on him right out of the gate then you're ignorant. Nearly every single Floyd fight from the last 7 or 8 years disagrees with that.

    Thirdly, if you can't see that Floyd has slipped then dont even respond to this because it would confirm your idiocy. It's a 50/50 fight.
     
  2. Real-G

    Real-G Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jesus dude.. If you think you beat a fighter like Zab with out making any adjustment ask Cotto how that works out!

    Cotto almost got KOed by Zab! To keep himself being laid Flat, Cotto had to Foul ZAB in the nuts !

    Cotto even admitted to this .. So please stop trying to make it so simple because it not.

    Both fighter had pretty good plans to try and unseat Floyd, he was just one step ahead of them.
     
  3. Beast-Mode

    Beast-Mode Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's not a huge assumption. Making adjustments mid-round is what Floyd has been known for his entire pro boxing career. Off the charts Boxing IQ! Remember? How many trainers, boxers, ****ysts, writers, etc. have you seen constantly praise him for it? Making a huge assumption is saying that he won't be able to adjust to Manny. We've never seen Floyd just look lost for a full 12 rounds. It has to be seen first, before it can be believed. That is all there is to it.
     
  4. Real-G

    Real-G Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well if you can't see that Pac has slipped, you should not have even posted. Because you basing your post based on Pac of 5 years ago.

    Not sure why some of you pac fans think that Pac is the same fighter he was 10years ago, he's not even the same fighter 5years ago!

    Arum knows this, and Roach knows this, which why Pac has not fought anyone with half a decent punch since getting KOed.

    Which why I think, Arum agreed to Floyd demands because they know Pac his just a fight away to losing to a no name fighter.

    Any one that keep saying Shot Rios is a threat at 147 is fooling themselves!

    Also you got your post mixed up ! I never said floyd would press Pac!
    Exspecially when you can find post by me, saying how stupid it was for cotto, hatton and margaritto to try and press Pac!

    What I will say is this.. Roache's whole plan is based on weather or not Floyd shows up with no legs !

    Not sure what they are going to do if floyd show up with his legs. I guess they will try and push Floyd up against the ropes :lol:
     
  5. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How often have you seen Floyd use the jab against southpaws?
     
  6. 12gage

    12gage New Member Full Member

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    Well it is not like he fights a ton of southpaws, but he worked behind the jab a lot with Ortiz. Usually Floyd is quick enough to lead with straight rights but I think it would be a huge mistake not to disrupt Manny's timing with the jab.
     
  7. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Threw 109 Jabs vs Judah. Jabs represented 1/4 of all punches Floyd threw. (25%)
    Threw 222 Jabs vs Guerrero. Jabs represented almost HALF his punches thrown.
    Threw 83 Jabs in 4 rounds vs Ortiz..... Again, almost half his punches thrown.

    I could go on and break down Floyd's use of his lead hand further against southpaws, but you'll just dismiss it anyways. So what's the point.

    Do you even watch the fights? Or you just repeat what you hear from other people?
     
  8. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And what % landed the problem with compubox us they count pawing range finders a jabs thrown.

    He landed 20% of his jabs against Guerrero because he wasn't throwing to land them. He landed 40% against Alverez.
     
  9. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't say stupid **** if you don't want to be called on it.

    Floyd uses the jab against southpaws. There are a variety of ways to utilize a jab besides throwing it to land. That does NOT mean the jab is not being used.
     
  10. bobotnaman

    bobotnaman ★★★★☆ Full Member

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    quoting so i could bump this after the fight. you're in for a surprise.
     
  11. blai213

    blai213 Active Member Full Member

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    I think the onus of this fight is on what Floyd does. How will he react to Pac's style?

    Pac we know will do what he does best.
     
  12. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    He has made adjustments his whole career, I and others have listed examples, he has the highest ring IQ in the sport today so yeah I think he will make adjustments it's a logical conclusion when you look at their body of work. If JMM who had Pac figured out after round 2 of their first fight could do it then PBF who has a higher ring IQ than he does can. What is a forgone conclusion is Pac making adjustments he still has no answer for a right hand, that's what you and others who don't agree with my thread seem to forget.
     
  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    You won't be here after the fight anyway Pac**** so don't even do that to yourself. Instead of nuthugging and wishful thinking why don't you offer some insight but I guess your lack of boxing intellect prevents you from doing so.
     
  14. boxing_master

    boxing_master Loyal Member banned

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    Jmm and mayweather don't fight the same style troll :hi:
     
  15. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    You're wrong it's not about how PBF will deal with Pac but rather how Pac will react to PBF once he makes adjustments at that point the fight will begin. If Pac can't make those adjustments he will be done and get a boxing lesson. I'm going with the guy who has a history of figuring guys out and taking away their best punches over the course of a fight rather a guy who's a sucker for the right hand somewhat one-dimensional and has never shown to be great at making adjustments just fighting on instinct, but that's just me.