**Most people dont know how to Judge professional boxing**

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  1. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Byrd knows all this too, Byrd is a professional Boxing judge, fully trained to the specifications of the sports rules, fully licenced to officiate. And what a **** up she is.
     
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  2. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Your point?
     
  3. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Your ' Appeal to Authority' argument goes out the window when you consider that Judges like Byrd are incompetent and corrupt.
     
  4. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    That's one judge. The other had it 114-114 and 115-113. Let that sink in.
     
  5. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    My point being its all well and good knowing how to score a fight but pro judges using the exact same system can come up with 3 different scores. Are you saying 2 of them dont know how to score a fight?

    You claim you know how to score a fight and alot of people who felt Golovkin won didnt know how to score a fight but your opinion also varies from many experts who also know how to score a fight and they also scored it for Golovkin.

    When your 1 single score card is different to alot of casual fans scorecards i wouldnt take their cards for granted over yours, when your score card is different to alot of Experts from within the sport, and when i say alot i mean most of them, i think id sway with what they were saying. Especially when i saw the fight myself and i agree with them anyway.
     
  6. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Most people had it between 115-113 for GGG to 115-113 Canelo.

    One single round makes that a draw either way.

    Anyone who says it was a easy fight to score for GGG is bias. I don't hear many outside of GGGoons, haters and casuals claim either fight was a robbery.
     
  7. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    yeah but your saying alot of people dont know how to score a fight and that you do so you know EXACTLY what the correct score is. So there is no between this and that there is correct and incorrect and anybody who doesnt agree with you is wrong. But then you are saying 1 judge was correct to call it 115-113 Golovkin and another judge was correct to call it 114-114 and also what ever you called it was correct also?

    Maybe im just being a bit pedantic seeing as its late and im a bit drunk. But it just sounded a bit like you were saying most people are wrong and im right, and when you say most people you are talking about thousands of people.
     
  8. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think I can usually see who’s winning but then when I hear what the commentators say I can get confused.case in point Isal I remember fearing for Golovkin against Jacobs and had it very tight by a round but I did fear it could go the other way and same with Golovkin v Canelo 1 in that without listening to commentary I felt it could be a draw.
    Still not seen 2nd fight but on radio they had it by one for Golovkin but so many rounds were opening for genuine interpretation as appose to looking for reasons to give it Canelo,given they were never gonna score another draw someone had to come up short and so I had no problem at all with the result.
    That said Isal I am the forums casual and what do I know?would never presume I know more than the so called experts on TV and media.
     
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  9. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    To me this load of Bull feces proves you do not have a clue yourself The whole Bennet NSAC & Vegas boxing officials hang are one of two things Totally inept or blatantly corrupt We must all make our own decision which it is
    A hood clue was when a forum member asked Bob Bennett his opinion of Adelaide Byrd's ludicrous 118-110 for Canelo in fight 1 Bennett's reply was "Adalaide is one of my best judges' ROFLMAO
    She gasnt missed a beat & is STILL judging big fights
    I don't think we really need to look much further
     
  10. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Way I see it and I can’t think of any other sport that does this?is how we all accept stuff like home cooking judging and A side BS and just take into consideration like it’s normal.
    Well normal it might be but it is corrupt and I ain’t even on about those two fights,case in point was Taylor v Postal where the judges were either blind or payed off as prior to the stoppage that fight was I never the balance and the scores must of made postal feel like s***.
    Re Isal and Shadow I reckon they both good guys but you’re asking too much of em as they are primarily Canelo fans and even worse Golden Boy fans so hypothetically they could give you a million reasons as to why Canelo earned a draw first fight but would be incapable of finding anything for Golovkin in the 2nd fight to give him a draw.
    Personally I had em close but I wouldn’t presume I know more than the consensus of professionals.
     
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  11. Angler Andrew

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    Well bravo,you said it CJ it’s corrupt and even worse are those that roll with it.
    Personally I was a fan of AJ until I saw that Parker fight with the bent Ref.put me off A side AJ big time as him winning wasn’t more important to me than the standards we should all want to see and that’s being neutral and fair to both sides.
     
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  12. Angler Andrew

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    Only heard it on the radio but that last round was the killer for Golovkin it seemed and for that he can only blame himself as we all know those championship rounds matter.
     
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  13. Angler Andrew

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    Like I said still not seen it as I heard it live on the radio and then had to live in the caravan for three weeks cause of my house looking like a building site.
    Wasn’t there a round where Canelo was hurt and nothing coming back?felt like Golovkin would capitalise on that the round after but Canelo did well.was Canelo hurt in that round Isal,think it was round nine or ten?
     
  14. IsaL

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    You clearly didn't understand the opening post or you only read the title and responded.

    I said boxing is subjective. Its in my opening post.

    I also said I used the 10 pt. must scoring system to score the fight.

    I assure you most spectators don't know how to score a fight properly, and they use a lot of bias in choosing a winner in close fights.

    I have zero issues with anyone scoring it for GGG, but when they call it a robbery its difficult to even start a serious debate.

    Boxing is fun, debating in forums is fun, but when the losing side cries and cries, it gets boring. Same if the winning side gloats and gloats, that also gets boring.
     
  15. IsaL

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    Why haven't you seen the 2nd fight? Its very entertaining.

    I don't pay much attention to what the media says, they have proven time again that they dksab. A perfect example is DLH-Mosley II. Most of the press had Mosley beating DLH, when it was clear as day Mosley got thoroughly outboxed, so clear even the FBI got involved to investigate foul play. As far as boxing experts, a lot of our boxing experts such as Teddy Atlas have a bias for one reason or another.

    The best we can do os score the fight ourselves and compare to the three judges. Every single judge had it extremely close, except for Byrd. So all scorecards considered minus Byrd's, there is no justification to call either fight a robbery, none.