**Most people dont know how to Judge professional boxing**

GGG won. Got ripped off again. It was very obvious

 

Harold Lederman's scorecard was the same as mine. Close fight so I can't say it was a total ripoff but there's no way GGG is going to get a close decision win.

 

The question is to what extent is defense scored. What is valued more? 3 landed punches or 3 punches blocked/slipped/parried. The criteria is not clear. I feel like there needs to be a far more clear set of rules for boxing. And I don't think it has anything to do with people on this forum. There are mixed feelings about Canelo/GGG 2 and a **** load of other fights between pros. So clearly boxing's criteria is not "clear".

 

Dumb cholo

 

That’s because canelo was a “slickster” in the first fight.

 

By the way, those are the official scoring criteria for professional boxing matches.

So, yes, they do. And maybe that explains differences you have with particular scorecards.

 

The real issue with scoring this fight is jab versus power punches. Jab is a jab, doesn't matter how hard the person throws it, or how hard it is thrown. A Malignaggi Jab, is counted as equal to a GGG jab as long as they both land cleanly.

Why, because in the end it's still a punch thrown from the lead hand. The easiest punch to land, least risk, takes the least amount of stamina to throw, least amount of time to reach the opponent, and even if whiffed you will not be off balance. Another factor needed to be considered is if the jab was used to control the fight, the pace, part of ring generalship.

Then we have a power punch, body shots are typically hooks to either side of the body, high risk, takes longer to throw and leaves you very vulnerable. Same with a hook to the head with either hand, even a straight takes longer to reach the opponent and allows for more force to be generated by twisting at the hips and pivoting with your feet. In the end a power punch by the same person can probably do 2-4 times the damage a jab can do.

We already saw the difference in these punches in the fight itself, because GGG was at such a speed disadvantage, he couldn't land power punches on Canelo with a high success rate. Thus he relied on his jab, similar reason as to why he was tentative to throw to the body, although it is easier to land than a standard hook to the head, it comes at and even higher risk, and on most opponents it does less damage than hitting the head.

How much is a jab worth compared to a straight, a hook or a shot to the body. Then we have clean and grazing shots. The more you complicate things, the harder it is for a judge to score the fight live. Even though I am guilty of criticizing GGG, I would have rather had the first go to GGG, and the second could have gone to Canelo.

As for the nuthuggers that said he would have laid out Carl Froch, maybe now you'll stop overhyping someone that hasn't proven himself.

 

I watched the fight and I believe Canelo won by two points.

 

I agree with Drenlou in the sense I wouldn't call it a robbery. The guy I thought won didn't get the decision but it wasn't like he won 9 rounds that were unequivocally his. Had that been the case, then yes robbery is justified. At the same time, I'm not going to shrug and do the 'could go either way' think - I stand by my score and stand by giving both fighters enormous props.

I do however take issue with Isal's post. Read to me a bit like "the reason you scored it differently to me is because I just know more than you and I'm a hardcore boxing fan". If I've interpreted that correctly then that's little more than supercilious bull****. If I've understood in incorrectly, then by all means ignore this paragraph.

 

There is an article written by Steve Weisfeld who was one of the judges. He lists Clean punching as his main and pretty much only criteria for scoring a professional boxing match. This isn't like other sports where the when the ball goes onto the basket you score a point.

http://www.premierboxingchampions.c...ge-steve-weisfeld-offers-tips-how-score-fight

 

Can we all just agree that we miss Farmboxer in times like this?