Most popular with judges/immune to losing decisions: Saúl Álvarez, Danny García, or Jessie Vargas?

Look again. Read my posts. Closer race than you think.

 

I think people voting are just going by that same mentality that he's bigger so the bad scorecards in his favor "stick out" more, which is really kinda dumb and disappointing IMO. Was hoping for people to use more nuanced and 'adult' critical abilities.

Canelo really only has two robberies, per my cards at least, and one I had airtight (by a single point- 114-113 - in favor of Trout...and there could be a swing round in there which swings the whole thing Canelo's way), while most people actually disagree with me on the other (Lara...and that includes even most Cuban nationalists and Canelo haters! They all waffle and say "it could go either way" or "those rounds were a nightmare to score" when IMO it was very clear for Lara) so in some people's view he might not even have one thoroughly undeserved victory.

His actual record, were you to visit some alternate universe where his career is devoid of incompetent or corrupt (let's just use the catch-all umbrella term "questionable") scoring, is barely affected. He picks up maybe one, two more losses (and though I still have to watch it, according to a good majority of fans whose opinions I value, the Golovkin draw becomes another loss) but at the end of the day, not that different from where it stands now. He only has a single win that he definitely ought not to. What damns him is that his three best opponents beat him clearly (again, going by what I've heard re: GGG) and yet he came through 1-1-1 against them and even in the draw and loss the cards turned in were RIDICULOUSLY generous to him...making it super obvious that he is someone that isn't "supposed" to lose...

Danny, OTOH, boasts THREE of those (wins he absolutely never deserved and should not have), plus a bunch of closer but still dubious benefit of the doubt scenarios.

Vargas actually has the most controversial bouts of all three, and is a close 2nd in # of questionable scorecards (1 more of the former than Canelo, two less of the latter) and thing is, without his backing he would almost certainly have a handful of losses (or at least a BUNCH of draws, or a mix of both). Vargas is wildly inconsistent and even at his best isn't on the same level IMO as García, let alone Canelo. He is the very definition of protected. Canelo is good enough that he could have faced his entire resume with fair & shrewd judges and with his record looking more or less the same.

García actually has the fewest dodgy individual scorecards and the lowest quantity of events that were themselves instances of questionable scoring, but he does have the most BLATANT robberies, and the most severe. Three of them, and each is a greater miscarriage of justice than any one thing on Álvarez's or Vargas' record.

In court a trio of highly skilled lawyers with similar backgrounds (roughly equivalent in education, reputation, and experience since passing the bar test) could argue this question to a three way dead heat.

 

What's really disturbing about this rogues gallery is that you can track all their misdeeds to see an emergent pattern of their bending logic (and the rules & criteria - and code of ETHICS - of their vocation) to "look out for the house fighter" on behalf of GBP (Canelo, and DSG for a while) and Haymon (DSG, Vargas) and Top Rank (Vargas) and Mayweather Promotions/TMT (Vargas briefly and I wanna say DSG at one point? Co-promotional arrangement perhaps?) - suggesting they are each on multiple payrolls? Are they all just mercenaries, operating case by case and selling out for the highest bidder?

 

Well, the more correct deduction, aided by observing firsthand Monzón's fights to judge for yourself, is that his style was a puzzling one for many to analyze, making for lots of cloudy and disparate views of his largely monotonous-in-tone bouts.

A few of the serious Classic scholars do attest that he did have at least a couple of gifts, though, including a couple of the draws.

...but, more germane to my thread, I asked which of the particular THREE individuals with titular name-checks in my thread got the most "special attention". I wasn't meaning to open the floor and invite nominations for "all-time biggest Latino gift-getter", because that could drown out & derail the intended topic here in a hurry.

 

Jessie Vargas is coming off smelling like a rose, here - definitely getting a gift decision over Canelo (and to a lesser extent DSG) in the poll.

There should be a lot more parity in the distribution. I suspect Canelo is just the highest standing object and thus attracting the most lightning.

46 votes and just ONE for Vargas so far? Nah, lads, I'm not having that.

 

Well if he becomes a currently active Latino boxer and thus an intersectionally overlapping member of this grouping, let me know.