Most probably Golovkin would beat the best middleweights of the 90's

The only Supermiddle weight that can defeat GGG is Andre Ward. At Light heavyweight he doesnt stand a chance against Beterbiev or Kovalev, I give him a chance against Adonis "fragile" chin Stevenson though. :deal

 

They are much larger than Primo Carnera, George Foreman and Lennox Lewis?

Maybe so.. But this is where you have to appreciate Roy's ability.. He was fast and powerful enough to be elusive and make a HW hesitant at the same time. GGG doesn't have the style to compete at a high level at HW in my opinion.

 

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heavyweights today are LARGER.

Roid Jones Junior never defeated the elites of the heavweight division.
Roy Jones Junior would have gotten knocked out by Wilder's jab as well. If GGG were to MOVE up, he could beat SOME heavyweights and cruiserweights, BUT he is never going to defeat the best. Golovkin would need help from PED's to gain mass in such a short amount of time as well.

But we really would not know until it happens, or if it ever happens. There is no way a bloated up roided Middleweight would ever succeed at heavyweight today.

 

Thanks for clearing that up.

Just a world champion, Golovkin has never defeated anyone in the heavyweight division, or even proven he can be competitive there.

You seem to dish out a lot of would's and could's ... When you look at what both fighters HAVE done, Golovkin is not even close to Jones. That is a fact.

 

As of now, NO, but once he clears out his division, and moves up, then yes. Yes Wilder would also knock out a bloated up roided version of Roy Jones Junior, it is common sense. It is very difficult to become a heavyweight champion today if you started as a Middleweight. It would be unfair even if you used PED's.

 

So all Golovkin has to do to reach Jones' level is beat up blown up WW Cotto and move up? Move up to where?

Not too impressed with Wilder actually... What is his best win anyway?

It has been difficult throughout history, only great fighters have won titles at both, but Roy did even better, he won a HW title after starting at JMW:yep

 

Cotto is going to vacate the belt, he will never fight GGG, Cotto knows he has NO place in the 160 division. GGG has to unify the division and beat all true Middleweights, which he is capable of doing. Than he needs to fight at 168 and defeat the top dog there. It doesnt matter if you arent impressed with Wilder, Wilder will KO Roid Jones with a jab. Gone are the days where Middleweights can blow up to heavyweight and win a title, those days are LONG gone.

 

Roy didn't unify MW, but he beat the guy who later would before moving up and destroying James Toney.

That is basically what Roy did. Except Roy also won titles in two higher divisions.

Wilder is not a great HW, there are many eras he would already be exposed in IMO... I think the Roy that fought Ruiz would have his moments against him... Sure if he caught Roy it would be over, but I think he has trouble catching him to be honest.

Nah, it will happen again eventually.

 

Golovkin can cement his legacy at Middleweight if he unifies, and THEN moves up. It will increase his credibility.

Golovkin doesnt need to fight at Lightheavy weight or heavyweight to be considered great. Not to mention doing that TODAY would be nearly impossible when you have monsters like Beterbiev and Kovalev at light heavy weight, and the current top dogs at heavyweight.

The very fact that you think a blown up heavyweight that started in middleweight in Roy Jones Junior can defeat a natural LARGE and powerful heavyweight like Wilder hurts... hurts your credibility :nono Roy might be the better boxer, BUT Wilder's size differential is TOO much.

There will NEVER BE A HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION THAT STARTED AT Middleweight, EVER! Size matters when there is skill involved.

 

Not in my opinion, I think he has already proven all he can there... The big fights are at higher weights.

How well do you know your boxing history? There have usually always been monsters at either LHW or HW.

Show me where i have said Roy beats Wilder.

Not true, there have been several, but I would like to note in Roy's case he started at Junior Middleweight.

Not disputing this.. But sometimes the heart and greatness of the smaller fighter is too much for the big man.:yep

 

How is 15-20 years back being nostalgic? It's not. Oh, I guess fighters at middleweight are bigger, stronger, more skilled and faster than they were 15-20 years ago, and humans/athletes have evolved by leaps and bounds in not even a half generation. All the fighters mentioned were the upper echelon of the division, mostly elite, and had legit successful careers, some through multiple weightclasses......unlike anyone GGG has fought to date. Suggesting he beats them all is ridiculous. Some, is plausible. Not many is realistic at this point.

 

He has to defeat Andy Lee and Quillin before he moves up. And Cotto or Canelo have to either fight GGG or vacate his belt. There is no one at the higher weight class right now besides Ward that he can reasonable defeat at 168, Golovkin can compete reasonably at the 168 weight class, any higher weight class and it would be unfair. I never said there has NEVER been a middleweight champion to become HW champion, I said there will NEVER BE another one of those scenarios again, ever. The fighters are simply too large nowadays. Kovalev and Beterbiev, Huck and Grigory Drozd, will never allow Golovkin to champion in those weight classes. These are skilled fighters with a significant size advantage. They probably have heart too.

To each his own I guess.

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There is nothing LOGICAL about your assumption. Golovkin is miles ahead in the skills department, he can defeat all contenders in the 90's.