Most protected fighter in boxing

If being protected is equal to being so good in your division it’s almost always assumed you will win then yeah, Golovkin is “protected”. Same way Joe Louis was “protected” in the 30’s through mid ‘40’s and Mike Tyson was “protected” in the mid to late 80’s

 

I brought up Simon in reference to him going the full 12 with AA, a fighter you have claimed in the past is better than GGG. You counter with Prescott all you want.

Now Postol was the highest ranked 140lb fighter to face Crawford yet Jacobs is second tier...um...right...Jacobs was number 2 in the division.

Also Matthysse has how many top 10 wins?....Molina?....Provodnikov?.....Soto?....maybe but all lower top 10.

How many losses does he have?....old Judah....Alexander....Garcia...and he quit against Postol.

So apart from a damaged Matthysse we have perhaps C level Lundy and D level Aydin as his top 3 wins.

Now regarding Quillin....he has solid victories over N'Dam, Guerrerro and a draw against Lee (I don't count the Wright victory as it was name only, abit like Pac v Horn). Lee had just come off that great victory over Korobov another avoided fighter.

But Quillin is only 1 fighter in a pretty solid resume by Jacobs.

Jacobs has...
Ishe Smith
Jerrold Fletcher
Caleb Truax
Sergio Mora
Peter Quillin
The great performance against GGG
And finally his recent victory over Sulecki who himself has has perhaps a better array of victories than Matthysse himself.

So we have the above mentioned victories over Postol beating who exactly?

Matthysse, Aydin and Lundy.....you still think it's a better victory?

As for Horn being a better win than Lemiuex you are out of your depth here. 1 victory over Pacquaio does not cancel out a solid resume by another fighter....if this was the case then Kirkland Laing is Britain's greatest ever welterweight.

 

Oh @dinovelvet did you get the link of Crawford starting camp at 180????

Not had a reply yet.

 

Corticosteroid. Your body produces corticosteroids when you...wait for it...are exercising. It's a PED and a steroid.

 

Crawford and GGG have similar levels of opposition, to be brief.

The issue here is that Crawford stepped up to serious comp in 2013 whereas GGG did in 2010. If you look at GGG's comp from three years ago it sucked, so we'll see where Crawford is in a few years. So far Crawford has been more dominant and ventured outside of his weightclass, so odds are GGG will rank behind him in the end. GGG is firmly not a top two fighter on account of struggling with Jacobs and Canelo.

 

I don't think Crawford has been more dominant at all.

Both Jacobs and Canelo aside Golovkin has destroyed all the fighters he's faced and not been forced to go to the scorecards against fighters of the ilk of Burns, Beltran, Postol etc.

Crawford starts camp at 180, he was draining himself at 135 and 147 is where his body should fit in nicely. Imo he wasted a few years at 135 and 140 when 147 was red hot.

 

...those last two GGG fights though. We’ll skip the D level Vanes showcase.

 

Jacobs and Canelo are levels above anybody Crawford has faced.

Also I had Golovkin beating Jacobs 116-111 and Canelo 117-111 although the Jacobs fight was a close contest.

Vanes was a fight that was done due to Canelo and money. I wasn't and still don't approved of it but GGG did what elite fighters do in this case and that is destroy them.

 

I agreed with draw and thought Jacobs won.

 

Well I'm afraid you are in the minority.

I thought the Jacobs fight was very close but clear as for Canelo I didn't think it was close at all.

 

You're actually in the minority. Mine are near the median, but yours are outliers, especially the Canelo one.

 

Wilder EARNED his bronze medal at the Olympics.


AJ ?????

 

Canelo was outlanded in nearly every round and was on the back foot throughout.

Did he land the flashier punches? No doubt but he wasn't busy enough.

It was an easy fight to score.

 

lol@ at the biased nuthuggery. . Lundy C level , but N'dam is solid? Nah , they are both C -level..

Quillin got a gift draw in a fight he should have lost. To prove im not saying that to push an agenda - here's a post i made after the fight.

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/lee-quillin-average-scorecard.534536/

Quilin was more damaged and broken down than Lucas so you're wrong on that. He was broken in the Jacobs fights and hasn't been normal since.
Postal beating Lucas is far better than Jacobs beating Quilin , so Carwford was facing a higher ranked proper champion who had a better win under his belt therefor he is a better win.
Jacobs was brought in to get blown away so how can that even be regarded as a decent win. Only the GGG fanboys propped him up after he ran their guy so close to a loss. Postal never bothered Crawford so the win and performance was better by Crawford.

Lemiuex doesn't have a solid win , Horn does. The time-line of the IBF belt Lemiuex won is an embarrassment and exemplifies why GGGs era was so laughably bad.

The WBO belt Manny won from Bradley was dropped by Floyd Mayweather . The vacant belt Lamule won against a C-leveller was dropped by a shot bits Taylor who was also suffering from insanity. lol

Lamule was operating in league 2. Horn was operating in the primer league. Horn definitely is a better win than Lemiuex.

 

Well no if Jacobs done a better job on Quillin both physically and mentally than Postol on Matthysse how is the Matthysse a better win? Especially after Matthysse already failing 3 times at the top which you have chosen to ignore.

Now as for said fighter and their respective resumes....top 5 victories for both Jacobs and Postol and let's compare.....it's on you troll.

Lemieux has various solid wins, N'Dam, Guerrerro, Stevens, Ayala and even Tap is are solid enough.

Hell they're even better wins than what Postol has.

Now for Crawford starting camp at 180...