most savage beating ever....

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  1. shommel

    shommel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    marciano-vingo, lamotta- robinson. parett-griffith you name em.
     
  2. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Almost sickening(ly brilliant):

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    Dempsey v Willard.
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    the new york times report of the fight...

    http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F00F15FB3A5D16738DDDAA0A94DA405B808DF1D3


    san fransisco newspaper report...

    http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85066387/1910-02-23/ed-1/seq-10/;words=/

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    His face. battered to a pulp, his eyes closed, his lips cuffed, covered with blood and' staggering- helplessly about the ring, Battling Nelson, conquerer of Joe Gans, was saved from a knockout in the fortieth round of his fight with Ad Wolgast when Referee Eddie Smith humanely stopped a most unequal contest. Nelson, game to the last, stood In the center of the , ring and even though he was hardly able to raise his hands. Begged to be allowed to continue. He was led to his corner heartbroken.

    In the opposite corner of the ring the new lightweight champion of the world, Ad. Wolgast of Cadillac, Mich was lifted to the shoulders of his trainers amid the cheers of the big crowd.

    Nelson Had But One Chance


    Only once in. the fight did Nelson have a chance In the twenty-second round when, with a stinging right cross to the jaw, he staggered his opponent. Before the round closed he Dropped Wolgast in the middle of the ring with a similar blow, and three seconds were tolled off before "Wolgast regained his feet.

    The crowd prepared to leave the arena, and the word passed from bench to bench that another boy had fallen victim, to the wonderful Dane. But in the next round Wolgast recuperated, and slowly but surely wore Nelson down.

    Twelve -rounds from the finish Nelson seemed bewildered and his blows were sent as though he had weights in his hands. From the thirtieth round Nelson could hardly see or hear, the left side/ of his face having lost all semblance of , its former contour. He staggered and hung on. In the thirty-seventh round he was all but out, but survived the round.

    Manager tried To End Fight

    In the thirty-eighth round, John Robinson, Nelson's manager, wanted to throw up the sponge into but Abdul, the Turk, one of the seconds, tore it from his hands and threw It into the bucket. From then on, in each round, Robinson protested, on the verge of tears, that his man was beaten. Referee Smith asked Nelson if he wanted to quit, and Nelson, -unable to talk, merely shook his head negatively. When thirty seconds of the fortieth round had gone and as darkness was beginning to creep over the scene of the fight, a full moon just beginning to peep through the clouds,. Referee Smlth raised Wolgast's glove into the Air and a new lightweight champion had come into fistiana,

    Wolgast had out generalled. Outboxed and -all but outgamed the Great Battling Nelson. After the battle Wolgast scampered out of the ring Like a schoolboy and galloped through the mud .Nelson was taken out on the arms of his seconds. As he was carried through the crowd he was cheered For the remarkable grit and gameness displayed by him .Such as old ring followers had seldom been seen In a prize ring.

    Referee Smith made the following statement to the Associated press

    Referee makes statement

    Wolgast fought Nelson at his own game and beat him Fairly and squarely. Nelson complained at times of Wolgast Butting, but I paid little heed as it was simply a case Of battler getting the worst of the game where both Were equally guilty .“Both men fought the same , but one had youth, the power to come back, vigor , life and all that goes with it, while the thirteen years of fighting through which Nelson had gone had sapped the strength out of him without The old snap, dash and stamina”

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    and after the fight...

    Wolgast was enjoying the adulation of the fans in San Francisco, and other than a slightly bruised left eye, showed little effect of having fought 40 rounds the previous day. Everywhere he went, the crowds gathered trying to have a look at the new champion. He was asked if he would give Nelson a return bout…

    Quote:
    "If it looks like a drawing card, why shouldn’t I? I have licked him twice and I can do it again. I am out for the money and if I get it whipping scrappers that are easy for me, I would be a fool not to jump at the chance.

    "Nelson will have to wait awhile though and when we do sign articles – providing such a thing happens – he will have to come to my terms. He held me down pretty tight and I think it is my turn to return the compliment.

    "So far as our personal difficulties are concerned, they are a thing of the past. I had my revenge yesterday."

    - Ad Wolgast


    Meanwhile, the beaten man was not looking to good...

    Quote:
    His face disfigured and discoloured, his cauliflower ear swollen to twice it’s normal size and his body a mass of bruises, the once invincible lightweight presents a pitiable appearance. Veterans of the game who have seen Nelson declare that they never, even in the days when bare knuckles were used in settling ring supremacy saw a fighter so battered up in fistic engagement.
    Nelson had a few things to say on his defeat…

    Quote:
    "While I did not realize it at the time, I can see now that I was not right when I started to train for this battle. In the first few days of training I took off about five pounds. This is not natural for me but I did not worry about it, as I soon took on the weight again when I eased up on my training.

    "I am frank also to admit that I underestimated the ability of Wolgast. True, he made a splendid showing against me in Los Angeles, but at that time I was clearly out of condition and I placed no importance on his so-called victory."

    - Battling Nelson



    Nelson went on to say that after he finishes his upcoming theatre engagement in Chicago, he plans on heading to his New Mexico ranch to relax. He reportedly already has a fight in the works for April against Cyclone Johnny Thompson, and plans to seek a return bout with Wolgast, in which he’ll states that he'll gladly put up a side bet of up to ten thousand dollars.

    The Dane added…
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    "In the meantime, I am willing to see him get all the glory he can out of his title. As far as our differences are concerned they are settled."
    Despite the graphic nature of his injuries, Nelson was in reasonably good cheer and was reportedly walking about in a "lively manner" and by 9 p.m. had started off for Chicago. Before leaving San Francisco, he made a few jokes over his appearance, adding that he looked worse after losing to Joe Gans years earlier in Goldfield.

    Wolgast decided to stick around town a little longer and it was reported he would be boxing exhibitions over the next couple days, before planning to head back east the following week.
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    nelson continued to fight (including a rematch loss to wolgast) and in 1917 challenged freddie welsh for the lightweight title. he lost a twelve-round decision and retired from fighting in 1920.
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    fast forward to the 1950's...
    "MUMBLING INCOHERENTLY, the shriveled little man shuffled into the charity ward of Chicago State Hospital. The doctors looked at him with a mixture of pity and awe. His eyes were blank and his once muscular 133-pound frame had wasted away to a mere 80 pounds. A brash young attendant said callously: "Huh! Another derelict. We're sure getting a lot of them these days." An elderly attendant shot him a cold look. "Do you know who that 'derelict' is?" he snapped angrily. "That 'derelict' is Battling Nelson, one of the greatest fighters who ever lived."
    Old Bat, who had licked immortals like Aurelio Herrera, Young Corbett, Jimmy Britt, Terry McGovern and the incomparable Joe Gans, was 71 years old when he was ruled insane and committed in January of 1954. The psychiatrists' diagnosis had been chillingly brief: "Incurable senile dementia." Nobody will ever know what went on in Nelson's tortured mind as he dribbled away his last days amid alien surroundings. Occasionally a flicker of interest would light up his lustreless eyes and he would try to talk. But the words trickled out in a jumble of meaningless phrases. Those familiar with the ex-champion's spectacular career could pick out place names here and there and link them with some of the famous battles that had earned him riches beyond his dreams. Names like Colma... Goldfield... Point Richmond... But what could they make of such mystifying phrases as electric lights... cracks in the floor... sheets of snow... my seven dollar suit...? It was hard to make any sense of this babbling because Nelson, in his wild hallucinations, was conjuring up the broken images of a past less concerned with his great triumphs than with the vivid fragments of memory that often overshadow the important events in a man's life..."
    a month later he was dead of lung cancer at age 71. With 68 wins, 19 draws and 19 losses, Bat once said that although he had "lost several fights," he had never been beaten.

    Battling Nelson was elected to the International Boxing Hall of Fame in 1992.
     
  5. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    Of the past 30 years, Duran-Moore, and Chavez-Rosario immediatly come to mind.
     
  6. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    All those plus Foreman-Frazier 1.
     
  7. DaveK

    DaveK Vicious & Malicious Full Member

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    Duran-Moore

    V. Klitschko-Briggs

    Williams-Jack

    Gomez-Holmes
     
  8. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPon20ekfAg&playnext=1&list=PLA816416CE8F3F66F[/ame]

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgenYK7VaxY&feature=related[/ame]
     
  9. gumbo2176

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    Mancini/Kim when Kim died a few days later in the hospital. Kim's mother later committed suicide over his death.


    Diego Corralles/Jose Louis Castillo round 10 stoppage where Corralles needed a KO to win and did.

    Arturo Gatti was a human highlight reel with the beatings he took only to come back and defeat many of the opponents he faced.

    Billy Collins/ Louis Resto where Resto had the padding removed from his gloves by Panama Lewis for that fight.

    Miguel Cotto/Antonio Margarito??????lots of questions arise since his wraps being brought in play prior to the Mosley fight.
     
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  11. Nicky P

    Nicky P Jamiva Boxing Full Member

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    what Ike Williams did to Beau Jack was pretty brutal.
     
  12. Goyourownway

    Goyourownway Insanity enthusiast Full Member

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    Chavez dished out alot of really violent,one-sided pastings during his time.He's the cleanest and most precise short-distance puncher that I've ever seen.Add power and consistency and you've got a beatdown.What Chavez did to Camacho paled in comparison to how he treated Dwight Pratchett.Camacho atleast had the good mind to move and not limit himself to a stationary punching bag.



    The beating that Jeff Fenech gave Victor Callejas was very reminiscent of what Chavez did to Rosario,too.He smothered the **** out of Callejas and busted him up pretty badly through his inside work.
     
  13. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    billy Collins jr Resto collins never was the same
     
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    Tony Galento vs Lou Nova. As dirty as it was savage. Galento should have been DQ'd mid-rounds.