Most scary boxing scene you saw in person?

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  1. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Though Benny lingered over a week in a coma, can't imagine anyone in MSG not feeling Benny was dead in the ring, tangled in the ropes.
     
  2. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jim what a small world it is.
    I posted this thread about Freddie Russo about 3 years ago, but
    better late than never...I knew of your dad before I saw this near tragic event at Stillman's gym in 1944 or 1945..I knew he won 51 fights in a row til he met a terrific featherweight named Sal Bartola who decisioned your dad right after your father beat a very fine FW Jackie Wilson. After this loss
    he was never the same it seemed...Sal Bartola was a helluva fighter who would have been champion except for a certain featherweight named Willie
    Pep...At any rate Jim I as a youngster growing up would visit Stillman's gym every week to see the greatest fighters in the world for 25cents.
    One afternoon I saw your dad sparring, when all of a sudden he fell to the floor clutching his throat as he seemed to have "swallowed" his mouthpiece. He was maybe 5 ft away from me and turning bluish. His handlers ,could of been Whitey Bimstein, Irving Cohen ,jumped in the ring
    and stuck their finger in Russo's throat and dislodged his mouthpiece/
    probably saving his life...I remember the crowd of spectators were silent
    and were so relieved as I to see Freddie get to his feet shaky but alive.
    I never saw that before or after...Your dad would have made a bundle of money today against fighters who fight 3 times a year...cheers Jim...
     
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  3. JLP 6

    JLP 6 Fighter/Puncher Full Member

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    Boy.... "could of been Whitey Bimstein, Irving Cohen ,jumped in the ring
    and stuck their finger in Russo's throat and dislodged his mouthpiece/
    probably saving his life"

    He could have lost a finger. They had no idea about the Hiemlich manuever as we know today. Maybe it would not have been a good idea to try since he was on the ground.

    That must have been hell for his dad.
     
  4. hookfromhell

    hookfromhell Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Haha "Prime Tyson"
     
  5. jrrusso

    jrrusso New Member Full Member

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    Hi Burt,

    a very interesting story and insight to an era now long gone. Yes, Freddie's handlers were Whitie Bimstein and Irving Cohen. My dad very young when he took on Sal and a little easy to goad, so Sal teased my Dad about dating my mom at the time and Freddie wanted to take his head off (they were all good friends and hung out together) and Sal sat back and just countered Pops for many rounds until he finally settled down, but he did lose the bout to Sal in a decision. Freddie had a pretty bad car accident that slowed or derailed his career. Funny thing, he wanted to fight his best friend and Featherweight Champion Willie "The Will of the Wisp" Pep, but that fight eluded him. they were signed to go once right before the first Pep Saddler fight and they put the full court press on my dad to step aside for the bout, timing is everything. Willie says to my Dad...Freddie, take the money to step aside and I will knock out Sandy and we will fight in a few weeks. Eventually, Freddie took the buyout figuring Pep would knock out Saddler and that they would fight in a couple of weeks. Funny how things go, Saddler knocks Pep out in the first of their memorable fights and at the same time my Dad has a horrific auto accident on the way to Florida to enjoy his purse for not fighting, breaking his right arm. He never did get back to his former self although he did go on to defeat 3 maybe 4 former World Champions and the European Champion (Vince Del Orto). He never got that fight or one with Sandy who he had a street fight in a drug store around the corner from Stiillman's (defending his buddy Willie) so that fight never did get made either. He lost a close on to Phil Terranova that might have put him in line for a shot as well. Yeah, all those boys would have made tons in the eras since.
     
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  6. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    J, you got me reminiscing about the old days when my dad took me to fights weekly in the NY area...There was a featherweight who I saw often who was much like your dad, His name was Lulu Constantino from the lower East Side. Lulu was a magnificent featherweight who also went 56 fights without a defeat, til he met the ancient Chalky Wright...Lulu was a neighborhood friend of Rocky Graziano and TOUGH Terry Young, who was in the first main event my dad took me to against a young sensation from
    Augusta, Georgia , Beau Jack...Your dad came from a wonderful era of
    boxers, the fabulous 1940s...Keep punching...:hi:
     
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  7. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ah nostalgia visits me J. There was a terrific featherweight much like your dad, who had 56 bouts without a defeat. Much like your dad. His name
    was Lulu Constantino from the lower East Side of NY. Lulu was a friend of
    Rocky Graziano and TOUGH Terry Young who was in the first pro main event my dad took me to, against a young sensation from Augusta, Ga.
    Beau Jack...Funny your dad lost his unbeaten streak to Sal Bartola, and Lulu lost to ancient Chalky Wright to end HIS streak...What a great era was the 1940s...Cheers...
     
  8. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Leon Spinks' teeth
     
  9. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In the Minneapolis gym I was taught at they had monthly smokers, usually amateur but sometimes local pro's would do exhibitions too. Well the ring was up against an old cement wall on one side and I can still see a young fighter out cold and on his way down with his head falling outside the ropes and just touching that wall. Another half inch or so and he would likely have been dead (and still they never put any padding up or moved the ring).
     
  10. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Much appreciated posts from Burt and Jrrusso on that long gone era. For years I've searched out new stories from those days but the publications have covered and recovered the same ones, here though and from seasoned fans like you two I find them. Thanks guys!
     
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  11. JLP 6

    JLP 6 Fighter/Puncher Full Member

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    Agreed. We are a little spoiled here at times.