Most talented middleweights ever?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Who were the most talented 160 pounders of all-time and which had the best fundamentals?
     
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  2. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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  3. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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  4. NickChristo

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    Marvin Hagler and Ray Robinson are probably the top 2, Carlos Monzon follows close, didn't have the athleticism of the others but made up for it his ring IQ which was off the ****ing charts even among the elite and his Monzon'ness.
     
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    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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  6. JohnThomas1

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    Jones and SRR are the most talented Williams possibly has the best fundamentals.
     
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  7. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    I would add James Toney too as far as defensive skills and counter punching skills are concerned.

    I think its a subjective thread though.

    RJJ was the most athletically gifted middleweight ever. SRR was a great athlete and had good fundementals.

    Hagler was exceptionally talented too in that he could confortably switch between southpaw and orthodox. Its certainly an amazing talent.
     
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  8. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    What do you mean?

    It's not in General......Bokaj started it today in Classic.
     
  9. Bujia

    Bujia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Talent: Jones Jr.

    Fundamentals: Probably someone we don’t have enough footage of. Among those we do, Monzon for minimalism and efficient use of the basics. Hopkins for the more specific miscellaneous stuff.
     
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  10. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    I'm gonna say Eduardo Lausse since he isn't really mentioned anywhere else. Guy was definitely a talent (but not 'most talented ever').
     
  11. JohnThomas1

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    We could mention so many and so much couldn't we.

    Toney sort of sits in between. He's talented and he has some great fundamentals but i think both of my suggestions surpass him in the segregated categories.

    Jones talents were extraordinary. The speed, the power, the reflexes, the intuition.

    For once I've gone straight for the jugular rather than mentioning all and sundry :lol:

    Of course guys like Burley were immensely talented as well.

    Hagler's switch hitting was impressive but imo it was just one facet of talented. It also, if anything, was to his detriment against SRL.
     
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  12. Unforgiven

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    Probably some bum we've never heard of.
     
  13. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Hagler had a wide variety of punches too, his jab and counter jab were very effective at the end of his long reach.
     
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    Hagler had a fair old arsenal but he doesn't beat out either.
     
  15. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All round talent it’s Hagler for me.
     
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