most under rated and most over rated heavyweight

Jesus Almighty ****ing Christ...

If Ali is overrated, so is every pug who ever entered the squared circle.

 

Someone needs to escort elroy home... He's had too much to drink again.

 

No question. Lewis is the most overrated HW champ. He's the only top rated HW champ taken out twice in the early rounds by second rate opposition when he held the title.

And I think Jack Dempsey has become quite underrated over the years. When there will still people alive who had seen him fight, he was rated right up there with Louis and Ali.

 

Holmes? Berbick? Ali was already ill. This is a joke. It's meant for attention and I guess you are getting it.

 

One of the stupidest things i've seen on this forum

 

Elroy...It is amazing that you have no understanding that you are the exact mirror image of those you call nots/OTNBs.

Just to otuch on what others have not critiqued here yet.

Foreman was not just a banger. A top shelf jab, strung punches together effectively, great at cutting off the ring, very tough, besides his phsyical gifts.

Norton did not have no punch. Shavers may well have hit the hardest EVER. HE has minimal boxing skills, so if you rate his power down because he did not KO the best & bigger HWs as often that is irrational. His accuracy, set ups, endurance was limited. And again, bigger does not necessarily mean better & harder hitting.

Frazier was not chinny. He was not at all bhubby until well past his prime, near the end, when he foght Foreman. His movement was a defense. He hit HARD. Calling him a dwarf betrays your bias. He was as tall as Tyson & had a longer reach.

Do you think you are intellectually honest? You know well Ali was beyond shot & sick ith Parkinson's when he fought Berbick & Holmes. It is disingenuous to hold it against him. Beating Spinks when fairly shot & sick was an achievement!

Ali was not prme when Cooper floored him, but I do not think that Ali would have lost without manipulation.

Your good points & intligence is largely undone by your extremist views.

 

Can't we all just agree to ignore this clown?

 

I don't think even by your incredibly low standards there's been a post on here containing as much bafoonery.
Tyson Fury!!? Badly floored by the Cruiserweight Steve Cunningham and the "immortal" Neven Pajkic,what do you think people like Shavers and Foreman would do to him?
As for Ali he would simply toy with him.
So you still think Cooper KO'd Ali? Do also do you still think Ali spent 4 years in jail during his exile?

 

Overrated I gotta say Tyson by far, Tyson was great but there are many people who make him out to be the greatest fighter of all time and its even worse when you talk to non-boxing fans as Tyson 95% of the time is the only guy they bring up.

Underrated I'd go with Tony Tucker, no one ever mentions him and I think he was quite good. Some don't give Riddick Bowe any credit of being a great fighter and I feel he was excellent for a lot his career. Also David Tua gets a lot of hate a lot of people mentioning him as an overrated boxer and I see a lot of people on this forum talking about him like he had nothing, in his prime I feel he was a very good fighter.

 

It would be a good idea and an even better one if the mods would ban him for trolling

 

Over rated-Liston...He had marvelous tools, but he quit probably twice.

Under rated-Frazier...Size of the man, doesn't measure the size of the man's heart. Defeated by 2 people, who are in most everybodies ATG top ten lists.

 

buhahahahahahahahaa!

 

His star might have shone for just one night but Buster Douglas's resume is often overlooked. Without any fanfare buster beat more name fighters than either Dokes, pinklon Thomas, Tubbs or bonecrusher ever did.

Tyson,
Page,
McCall,
Berbick.

It is a good resume what ever way you look at it.

.... It also makes Tucker look a better fighter.

 

There should be different categories for H2H and legacy, but at least for legacy:
Overrated: Be between Joe Frazier and Evander Holyfield. Both were basically the 3rd best HW's of their era, who circumstances helped a lot. Don't get me wrong, those circumstances still warrant top 20 ATG HW status, but the nuthugging hysteria on here about them owning other era's and being top 10 ATG's is absurd. Other era's third best HW's aren't accorded remotely the respect of those two, and that's unfair. Frazier's career compares fairly closely to the most underrated here:
Underrated: Sam Peter. Probably the era's 3rd best HW. If Vitali had lost to Peter, then rematched him later and beat him, Peter would have functionally the same HW career as Joe Frazier. In both cases under this scenario, the person regarded as champ leaves, another fighter takes his belt beating top contenders along the way, beats the champ on the return, later loses to the champ, and is beaten by the other top fighter of the era (Foreman, Wlad). Frazier beat a couple more top contenders than Peter, but then, Peter nearly beat Wlad while Frazier was dominated by Foreman. So, all told, if he had beat, then lost to Vitali, his legacy really would have been almost the exact same as Frazier's. Vitali's dominance thus harms the credit he gets for the win.