Most underrated boxer in each weight class...

captain hook · Dec 4, 2013

IB you nailed it !! thanks, having a lot to read now ! totally agreeing with arslan and brahmer.. its shame for arslan that huck pulled off..

BagsWithDust · Dec 4, 2013

Super Hans said: ↑

Heavyweight: Malik Scott
Cruiserweight: Grigory Drozd
Light Heavyweight: Zsolt Erdei
Super Middleweight: Brandon Gonzalez
Middleweight: Gabriel Rosado
Light Middleweight: Carlos Molina
Welterweight: Luis Carlos Abregu
Junior Welterweight: Khabib Allakhverdiev
Lightweight: Richar Abril
Jr Lightweight: Takashi Uchiyama (people should be screaming from the rooftops for a unification with Mikey Garcia like they are Kovalev-Stevenson, but some ignoramuses have never heard of him)
Featherweight: Akifumi Shimoda
Jr Featherweight: Daniel Rosas
Bantamweight: Suriyan Sor Rungvisai
Jr Bantamweight: Tepparith Kokietgym
Flyweight: Edgar Sosa
Jr Flyweight: Moises Fuentes
Strawweight: Carlos Buitrago
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That would be a dream fight but unfortunately i dont see either guy traveling to make the fight happen. Uchiyama looks like the type where he is only going to fight in japan

eltirado · Dec 4, 2013

IntentionalButt said: ↑

SFW - Juan Carlos Burgos. This poor mother****er. :-( The man nicknamed "MiniBurgos" (meant to distinguish him from his uncle Victor Burgos, but humorously ironic considering Victor campaigned from straw through fly while Burgos debuted at feather and never fought below 124lbs) was already turning heads for some of us as far back as 2009/2010 showing off his diesel engine in gritty learning experiences taking on a variety of styles like the float-like-a-butterfly-jab-like-a-mosquito Slava Gusev and the extremely tough and ever-ready-to-spring-an-upset Juan Carlos Martinez, among the best journeymen in Mexico. As expected, he positioned himself for a title shot but ran afoul of Hozumi Hasegawa. The former bantamweight champ was moving up two classes and presumed to have been damaged goods after being KTFO by Montiel. Everybody thought wrong. Hasegawa came back perhaps even stronger than during the peak of his 118lb reign. Burgos was clearly defeated in a tough battle, although not outclassed, and was only 22. More opportunities were sure to come...and did. He put together a nice run, got ranked once more, and challenged Rocky Martinez. He then dominated Martinez (final stat line: http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?p=14607209#post14607209) but fell victim to Martinez's same 'guardian angel' that came to his rescue in his previous WBO title clash with Beltran and would come again in his next defense over Magdaleno. Burgos had to settle for a draw, outrageously...despite having done everything needed to become a champion. Disparaged, he jumped up to lightweight and took on durable Ghanaian volume puncher Yakubu Amidu. Burgos was the better man in spite of a valiant effort by Amidu on short notice, surprised by Amidu's own formidable work rate but able to match it and hurt Amidu several times, and once more received a split draw for his troubles. Commentators and fans had it close but clear for Burgos or at the very worst a draw, so Michael Tate's 116-112 score for Amidu was hardly grounded in reality. Burgos' future plans are uncertain, but if he returns to 130lbs and can do so comfortably he is right in the mix and perhaps the biggest threat out there for Garcia and Uchiyama besides each other. Such match-ups are rarely brought up, however - nor are ones involving him at lightweight. He sort of slipped into the cracks and became unglued from the continuum, a man without a division for now. .
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Risky fight for anybody, so he will be matched with top 140 prospects when he starts losing more

flashy k.o · Dec 5, 2013

thanks IB, impressive posts. :good

what do you think about Gary Russell Jr ? This dude has 25 pro fights against some cab drivers and he didn't step up to the competiton. What is the problem ?

IntentionalButt · Dec 5, 2013

eltirado said: ↑

Risky fight for anybody, so he will be matched with top 140 prospects when he starts losing more
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I can see that happening if the stars don't align for him at 135 (and if he can't make 130 easily anymore) :verysad He really will live up to his billing as Mini Burgos if he is facing down guys like DeMarco and Lundy. Guys he is better than pound for pound but would be too small for.

IntentionalButt · Dec 5, 2013

flashy k.o said: ↑

thanks IB, impressive posts. :good

what do you think about Gary Russell Jr ? This dude has 25 pro fights against some cab drivers and he didn't step up to the competiton. What is the problem ?
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I have no idea. Russell caught my eye years ago, and I would've expected him to have long since progressed well past where he is. :conf

He can't really be called underrated, because everyone pretty much says the same thing about him: obviously talented, could do some great things, but uh... career plateaued with training wheels still on, much? :huh

IntentionalButt · Dec 5, 2013

I forgot, Raymundo Beltran is a very close runner-up at 135.

Rumsfeld · Dec 6, 2013

Outstanding stuff, IB - all of it!
:cheers

Especially enjoyed this excerpt:

IntentionalButt said: ↑

JMW - Carlos Molina. Still underrated after all these years, even after having become champion. I've seen people tipping Victor Ortiz to move up and claim his belt - easily, at that! His accomplishment is downplayed and given no credit because he only beat the lowly Smith who in turn had beaten the extremely limited K-9 - but if you look at what Molina has done (and if you could wave a magic wand to correct some wonky officiating and give him W's over Lara, Alvarado, Kirkland, and Chavez x2) the accomplishment is only the icing on the cake. Molina has been a top light middle for years and yet never given the credit except by a few, and most of even those few with reluctant distaste. Close runner-up: Javier Maciel, who should currently be up for a title shot but got screwed by some very bad judging in favor of Brian Rose. For a long time after the Pirog loss nobody would listen to me that Maciel was vastly improved dropping back down to 154 and potentially a serious force to be reckoned with...and even now, after some initial outrage following the Rose decision, it has quieted down and his name is receding to a faint whisper.
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