Most underrated fighters of all time?

I thought there was something good about Lora. Boxing's version of Frankie Boyle IMO.

 

Who did Tyson beat that was ABSOLUTELY top tier (and prime as you mention of others)? Holmes? Etc.

Not saying Tito is the bee's knee's tho

 

Okay, I guess we have to precisely define who's doing the "rating" to begin with

But even the so-called experts used to say ridiculous things about Tito--like he was an ultra-skilled boxer (I think one of the announcers said that in the Campas fight, though it's been aeons since I watched a Tito fight). But then I suppose Tito was a bit like Arguello in that he did have good technical base but kept getting out-boxed because he was slow and predictable.

 

Yes, Asian fans tend to be, shall we say, nationalistic?

I am an anti-nationalist though :happy

 

Christ, i don't come across as that much of a ****, do i?.

 

He beat De La Hoya and Whittaker, and he has a whole host of second tier fighters that he beat Vargas, Reid, Joppy, etc...

I think De La Hoya beat him but the judges disagreed, but Tito was the first man to decisivly beat Pernell, was he not?

I just think from the time he won the title until he lost to Bernard Hopkins, he really was regarded as a wrecking machine, he was going through everyone (aside De La Hoya, but he was a very good fighter himself), I mean Trinidad was dominant over two weights, and looked to be a major player at Middleweight. Alot of it was hype, but there was no smoke without fire.

 

Just your droll lines and observations. And the fact your a weirdo who likes gay porn.

 

I think the comparison is not quite exact for at least two reasons:

1. Michael Spinks, even above his natural weight, was superior than anyone Trinidad knocked out.

2. Tyson in his prime blew people out and was hardly troubled (except v. guys who went into a pure, Mosley-like survival mode like Bonecrusher); Trinidad got floored by every other guy he faced.

 

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So a Scot being into Asian boxers and Russian footballers. What's up with that?

 

Emile Griffith

 

I'll throw another vote in for LOU AMBERS, one of the greatest lightweights ever, often left off the top 10 lists.

 

Ambers is a great shout, especially relative to his obvious greatness, and I think someone (mcvey?) mentioned Sammy Mandell earlier - another great shout when you take note of his wins over McLarnin, Canzi, Kansas, Petrolle, Dundee etc. Excellent stylist and craftsman from what I've seen; losing the title he way he did to Singer doesn't do him justice. Kansas was underrated too and proof of the virtues of perseverance in a tough era, winning the title as he did at the age of 30 in the wake of those repeated arse kickings from Leonard. Some excellent names on his record and a very noteworthy career in general. Lightweight being the deepest division ever has resulted in a shedload of top fighters being ignored over the years, the Freddie Dawsons and Willie Joyces of history.

 

Gianfranco Rosi

 

Gentleman james.

A handful of past prime losses has made his legacy plummet. It aint right that past prime losses affect a legacy.