Most underrated LHW ever

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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Who is the most underrated 175lber ever?
    here's my three and reasoning

    1. Jimmy Bivins
    Excellent résumé with wins over Ezzard Charles, Archie Moore, Joey Maxim, Charley Burley, Buddy Knox, Teddy Yarosz, Gus Lesnivich and Lloyd Marshall

    2. Tommy Loughran
    Again Excellent résumé with wins over
    Jack Sharkey, Max Baer, Barney Ross, Mickey Walker, Harry Greb, Jackie Clark, Jess Smith, Mike McTigue, Young Stribling, George Carpinter and Jim Braddock

    I think he's better than Bivins but gets rated higher too

    3. Maxie Rosenbloom
    Unbelievable Longevity, Excellent Résumé
    He beat John Henry Lewis, Mickey Walker, Jimmy Slattery, Ted Kid Lewis, Frankie Schoell, Barney Ross, Tiger Flowers and Dave Shade
     
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  2. roughdiamond

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    Loughran.

    There's a reason he was the 'Phantom of Philly'.
     
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  3. George Crowcroft

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    My man, Loughran was beating genuine Heavyweights. Absolute Legend.
     
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  4. roughdiamond

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    Also was on the lower end of the greatest weight discrepancy in a bout. Was near 100lbs if I recall, against Carnera.
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

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    Idk I thought it was Haye and Valuev

    Edit: the difference between Haye and Valuev is 99lbs and 84lbs between Carnera and Loughran
     
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  6. roughdiamond

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    I think your right about that, actually. My mistake.
     
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  7. mrkoolkevin

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    Who underrates Loughran at light-heavy?
     
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  8. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    In this forum: Kovalev.
     
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  9. George Crowcroft

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    Almost every casual ever and 90% of hardcore boxing fans
     
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  10. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    But just about anybody who actually rates all-time light-heavyweights rates Loughran extremely highly.

    Loughran's problem is that most boxing fans have never really heard of him or his career accomplishments. Sorry if I'm being nitpicky but I think that's different.
     
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  11. roughdiamond

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    Going by your criteria I definitely think Conteh is underrated then H2H.
     
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  12. AwardedSteak863

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    Very good list. I will add a recent fighter that doesn't get talked about much. Zsolt Erdei. He was an excellent amatuer fighter that beat some pretty good fighters as a pro. Unfortunately he never was able to land a big fight against Jones, Tarver or Hopkins. With his hand speed, workrate and toughness he would have a been a handful for those guys.
     
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  13. Saintpat

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    Seriously? On this forum, posters usually rate him to beat anybody who ever scaled 175 H2H. It’s ridiculous. He had a gifted left hand and a more gifted head butt and yet you’d think he was SRR reading about him in Classic.
     
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  15. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    That's what I meant by people rank him higher in the OP but in the post you quoted I said that because not as many people know about him
     
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