Most Underrated Trainer/Coach?

sdunek.

 

Bill Miller has to be here. Freddie Brown almost always gets mentioned as a cut man or a conditioner but Duran himself said it was Brown who taught him the most. Arcel seems to have been more of a strategist much like Dundee was with Leonard.

 

Holmes first trainer before futch who Holmes won the title with.The one who looked like a 70s porn star. He’s so underrated I can’t even remember his damn name. Ha ha

 

Richie Giachetti, Ron Jeremy's twin brother. He also trained Tyson in the bite fight.

 

Bob Fitzsimmons, turned Jeffries into what was believed to be the most complete heavyweight of all time at that time, and played an important role in the early development of Joe Gans.

 

I 've never seen his name mentioned on this forum so am going with George Francis

 

There are 2 guys that I can think of, off the top of my head, that are great trainers. One of them trained an Olympian, a Pan American games winner and multiple amateur national champions; several of the kids he started became world champions as professionals. He trained 3 world champions, himself, in the pro ranks. Another was instrumental in the rise of Tony Lopez, Loreto Garza and other top NorCal fighters of that time. He still trains in Mexio after training the Colombian and Venezuelan national teams.
If I mentioned their names you still wouldn't know who they are.
The best trainers, the guys doing the day to day work in the gyms building fighters, are very rarely the guys you see on television.

 

I’ll add a couple for consideration:

Jesus Rivero trained Miguel Canto, Humberto Gonzalez and Oscar de la Hoya (for a bit). Master at the defensive side and in a weird way the mental game. Oscar doesn’t say much about him other than to hint that Rivero was like a cult leader and wanted him to start donating a bunch of his money to some off-brand religious sect or something like that, and also to move in with him and live like a monk, bunch of weird stuff. But on the boxing stuff, brilliant.

Victor Valle is most known for training Gerry Cooney, but he also trained Alfredo Escalera and Billy Costello. I’ve also seen him named as trainer for at least some period of Esteban DeJesus, Jose Torres, Ronnie Harris, Samuel Serrano and Jeff Lampkin.

 

Alcides Sagarra Caron. Cuban national team head coach for nearly 40 years, had a hand in producing all their best amateurs from the mid 60s to 2001 and was no doubt a huge part in creating the winning formula Cuba seems to have for the Amateurs.

 

Brendan Ingle gets hated on for someone who literally trained a boxer from the unpaid ranks all the way to a pro title. I think he's extremely underrated.

Johnny Lewis - has trained multiple world champions and never gets mentioned.

Bouie Fisher - one of the greatest trainers the game has ever known.
If you watched ESPN/USA in the early 80s he was always in the corner of almost every instrumental fight in Philly/Jersey and trained so many world class boxers I would need a separate thread to list all of them.

 

Perhaps the most criminally underrated guy is Dan Florio.

Trained Floyd Patterson (Cus was manager) for his pro career through just before the 1965 Ali fight, when Florio died suddenly.

Also trained Joe Walcott for both Louis fights and at least the first Marciano fight.

And, among others: Tony Canzoneri, Paddy DeMarco, Tony DeMarco, Roland LaStarza, Petey Scalzo and, in some capacity worked with Gene Tunney.

 

Whoever trained Usyk gets absolutely no credit.

 

Guys like Jackie McCoy, Charley Goldman, Jim "Slim" Robinson, Al Gore, Whitey Bimstein, "Chickie" Ferrara, Freddie Brown and Al Silvani are extremely easy to underrate.

Tho he gets heaps of accolades, George Benton is underdone out of the bigger names. The guy was amazing. He did great work with the likes of Whitaker, Meldrick Taylor and Holyfield, among many. Tho he won Ring mags trainer of the year in 89 and 90 i still think he exceeds his plaudits.