Most underrated turn around in heavyweight history

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  1. Unforgiven

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    I agree, in that sense it is a bigger turn around.

    You're not wrong. Rahman getting KO'd badly by Maskaev at the end of 1999, and coming back so he's KOing the champion Lewis in April 2001 is a relatively quick and dramatic recovery. Not sure how anyone can argue with that.
    I wouldn't go as far as you do in calling it "unique" though. I mean, there are similar instances.
     
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  2. Eddie Ezzard

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    I know I'm missing the OP's point but Holyfield's turning around of round 10 in the first Bowe fight from being a rag doll against a bigger man to having him in serious trouble all within the space of a minute is a hell of a turn around. From that same rag doll to the man who went on to beat the same man who had dominated him the next year deserves mention, even if I'm off topic and saying what has been said often before.

    Ali, getting his jaw broken and beaten by Norton, only to come back and kayo the monster who flattened that same Norton is also up there. And he did it by systematically breaking Foreman down rather than landing a single, albeit devastating, punch against a tired, under-trained and over-confident champion. So for me, that trumps Rahman's comeback. Again, I'm missing the point as Ali's turnaround of his fortunes vs Foreman is anything but underrated. But this thread, and the kudos awarded to Rahman (rightly so, too), shows just what a special fighter Ali really was.
     
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  3. choklab

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    The unique part is the dramatic spectacle of the knockout itself Rahman suffered from Maskaev. The way he was knocked out.

    First the punch knocks him out, then he hits his head on a table, breaks the table, hits his head on the concrete floor below the table. That's three knockouts right there, then I'm pretty sure the stuff from the table all falls on top of him as he is laid out on the floor unconscious. It is a horrific knockout.
     
  4. Frankel

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    IMO Rahman was the worst heavyweight champion in history
     
  5. Unforgiven

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    Certainly one of the worst.
     
  6. choklab

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    He knocked out an all time great prime heavyweight champion to win the title. What champions who did not knockout a prime heavyweight champion to win the title would you put ahead of him?
     
  7. Curtis Lowe

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    Oleg Maskaev came back from more crushing KO loses than anyone I can think of.
    KOed by Oliver McCall, David Tua, Kirk Johnson, T-Rex Sanders, Lance Whitaker, came
    back from these set backs to KO Rahman a second time and win a title.
     
  8. choklab

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    But it's a partial claim on the title. Rahman was not a prime ATG champion either time Oleg knocked out Rahmman. I liked Oleg but the second fight they had was between two guys who were 50-50 at world level. It's not the same.
     
  9. Unforgiven

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    I think Lennox Lewis is often grossly overrated.
    So, for me, I can't say Rahman is at all overrated.

    I give both Lewis and Rahman credit for coming back so well from devastating KOs though. I give credit to every fighter that ever did that. There are dozens, hundreds even, at least, who did it at world level. But there are many many more good fighters who suffered KO defeats like that and were never the same again.
     
  10. Man_Machine

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    The credit given to Rahman for his KO of the complacent Lewis is oftentimes overemphasized. As demonstrated by the result of their rematch, in which Lewis was focused, Rahman was limited as a Boxer, albeit one with a bit of power and a puncher's chance.

    Rahman was also unable to recreate results similar to the Lewis I KO, against men who were on the lower end of the world-class-spectrum, which leads me to doubt that, in another 100, 200, 300+ contests against a tuned-in Lewis, he could pull out a KO like that.
     
  11. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    This is my whole point! Fighters not being the same after one bad knockout.

    Rahman was the victim of the mother of all knockouts when his head went through that table and yet he was not only the same again but produced a great upset .
     
  12. Frankel

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    man-machine answered for me, in that Rahman never replicated his KO of Lewis, against any other opponent. Same can be said of McCall poleaxing Lewis. I think of Lennox Lewis as the most overrated fighter in history.