Most undervalued heavyweight by decade.

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  1. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thinking about this recently and the following come to mind;
    1880's Jack Burke
    1890's Denver Ed Smith
    1900's Mike Schreck
    1910's Jeff Clarke
    1920's Charlie Weinert
    1930's Bob Pastor
    1940's Turkey Thompson
    1950's Tommy Jackson
    1960's Bob Cleroux
    1970's Larry Middleton
    1980's John Tate
    1990's Mike Hunter
    2000's Nikolay Valuev.
    I'm thinking these guys should be better rated versus their peers, what do you think? Do you disagree or do you feel others are more forgotten/underrated? I'd say all the above are top 200 all-time by achievement, several top 100 contenders.
    Thoughts? (attacks!)
     
  2. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hunter is a good call for 90s
     
  3. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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  4. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    now!
     
  5. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Valuev was completely exposed by Haye, one paced and predictable, couldn`t cut the ring off, simply compare Valuev to Wlad vs Haye, different class and Haye had him hurt in the latter rounds also, I don`t know which peers you are talking about, both Wlad and Haye were better than Valuev.
     
  6. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Tony Tucker was undervalued in the 80`s, he fought very well against a prime Tyson and took a better shot than any other heavyweight in the 80`s aside from Holmes who was dropped by Witherspoon in `83.
     
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  7. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    If Tony Tucker was in his prime now, he might hold a title or if he was around during Valuev`s era he certainly would have been a champ.
     
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  8. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Gonna have to disagree with valuev, valuev is straight up what people pretend Primo Carnera is

    The rest are good though, I might put Cesar Brion for the 50s
     
  9. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not contending that Valuev was as good as Wlad, Vitali, Lewis etc but he boxed on roughly equal terms with good versions of Donald, Ruiz, Chagaev, Haye and a faded Holyfield. He also defeated Etienne, Vidoz, Barrett, McCline and Liakhovich. It is as good a record as any around that time, bar the elite. I'm talking accomplishments here, not style. For example he has a far more accomplished record than the much more touted Haye.
     
  10. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Made me look up Brion, interesting record, nice wins, bad losses, great effort with Layne, yeah I'd say a little undervalued.
     
  11. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I’ve got Oliver McCall for the 90s. He accomplished more than Foreman in that decade.
     
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  12. GordonGarner65

    GordonGarner65 Active Member Full Member

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    Tucker was a real favourite of mine. Beautiful boxer. He had everything. His father's mismanagement ruined his career. After that it was a bit too late. He got 27,000 dollars for his fight with Tyson.
     
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  13. GordonGarner65

    GordonGarner65 Active Member Full Member

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    Valuev was hopeless.
     
  14. GordonGarner65

    GordonGarner65 Active Member Full Member

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    Mike Hunter best win was a faded version of Tyrell Biggs . He lost to Marion Wilson who was a professional opponent and Brian Neilsen.
    Hunter was as erratic out of the ring as he was in it and he was never focused enough to achieve any consistency. He beat a young McCall in 1988 if I remember. He was an underachiever rather than underrated.
     
  15. GordonGarner65

    GordonGarner65 Active Member Full Member

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    Yes, McCall's meltdown against Lennox devalues his overall record.He was a tough guy