Most undeserving title challenger who actually won

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  1. Tin_Ribs

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    Your top ten probably has Grigorian in it. Castillo beat shitloads of ranked contenders before his first two title shots and was the Mexican and North American champion when that was a serious, serious achievement. Other than arguably deserving the decision against Rose in a brilliant fight, he beat Medel, Caraballo, Pimentel and Herrera amongst several others. Even not taking into account that you've made a gonk of yourself there by not being familiar with Chucho's achievements but still clarting out your opinion, the idea on it's own that Olivares was just a pure puncher and nothing more, deserves a stint in a flotation tank full of pig ****. All due respect fella, best not to comment on something when you don't know the facts and all that, and that's not being patronising or superior or anything. Just do some basic research before you say daft stuff.
     
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  2. Saad54

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    Mike Rossman
     
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  3. Saad54

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    Bad example

    Seabrooks had kod the dangerous and perennially top 10 rated Freddie "Pebbles" Jackson.
     
  4. Jel

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    First one I thought of too. Almost feels wrong to include though.
     
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  5. scartissue

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    Because you were not specific on which title shot you were on about. And by the way, he was also ranked #7 when he received his title shot against Tyson. If a fighter has broken into the top ten I have no problems with him receiving a title shot. Just like I have no problem with Chucho Castillo receiving 3 title shots by being the #1 contender. But you know this already don't you? I don't even like replying to you because you are not as dumb as you let on to be and are quite clearly a wind-up artist looking to get a reaction. I read some of your earlier posts with near-perfect diction, but suddenly now reading your posts it looks like someone handed a keyboard to a 4 year old. A 4 year old extolling the virtues of some Armenian welterweight who was far better than Barney Ross. Please!
     
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  6. mcvey

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    Douglas was no 9 in1988, no7 in 1989. He fought Tyson in Feb1990, so he was a legitimate ranked contender when he challenged for the title.
     
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  7. janitor

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    It is hard to find a more deserving challenger.

    The guy had practically cleaned out the top ten!
     
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  8. mcvey

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    Castillo was;
    1968 no2
    1969 no5
    1970Champion
    1971 no4
    1972 no6

    Medel was;
    1961 no2
    1962 no4
    1963 no1
    1964 no2
    1965 no3
    1966 no5

    To suggest either were anything less than top ranked contenders for over 5 years apiece when the respective champions in that division were two of the greatest ,[if not the two greatest ever at the weight ,]is palpable nonsense!
     
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  9. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Jong Kwon Baek over Lakva Sim. He’d done absolutely nothing to get his shot.
     
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  10. janitor

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    I would dispute Braddock to be honest.

    He was coming off a win over the #3 rated contender when he got his title shot.

    A weak champion perhaps, but not an undeserving challenger.
     
  11. Flea Man

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    The North American bantam title was not created in 1970. This is factually incorrect.
     
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  12. Flea Man

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    Stop guessing. Either do some research or shut up.
     
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  13. janitor

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    The politics leading up to that fight were quite complex.

    Braddock got the title shot in large part, because a couple of key negotiations fell through.

    It is known that negotiations with Schmeling and Hamas, broke down over money and terms.

    Braddock was not so much a cherry pick, as the option that Baer's camp were forced into.
     
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  14. Tin_Ribs

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    Find out yourself when it was created, yer bone idle c##t. That aside, there's important questions here for asking and distinctions to be made, old fruit.

    When you say positive match-rate, I believe you've confused two Mexicans punching each other with E-Harmony. I've never seen a primary source saying that Castillo and Herrera wanted to bum each other. That was just a vicious rumour started by Addie when I told him that they were both better than Barrera.

    Also, is half-knowledge like a half-life? A radioactive one? If so, you'll have to excuse me, it's all the time I've spent on boxrec that did it.

    Also again, what do windows taste of?

    Thankfulness to you, Ken Watanabe the fake Ra's Al Ghul.
     
  15. Saad54

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