Most wasted career in Boxing

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by garoshima, Feb 7, 2018.


Who is the most wasted boxer between :

  1. Edwin Valero

    6 vote(s)
    22.2%
  2. Dmitry Pirog

    14 vote(s)
    51.9%
  3. Ike Ibeabuchi

    7 vote(s)
    25.9%
  1. garoshima

    garoshima New Member Full Member

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    Edwin Valero 27v 27ko 0L
    Dmitry Pirog 20v 15ko 0L
    Ike Ibeabuchi 20v 15ko 0L

    I really don't know they are all great
     
  2. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    Maybe Blizzy???

    If he wouldnt of prolapsed in his first fight who knows???

    Ike 2nd.
     
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  3. Lith

    Lith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would have loved to have seen what would have become of Pirog. Not quite the same thing but I'm pretty gutted about how much ****ing around has been involved with Luis Ortiz, as well - not that his career is done yet but I rate the **** out of his skills etc and feel that he could almost have been more than a threatening force in HW right now.

    Too much drama with drugs and management related crap which really shouldn't have happened has cost him the years he couldn't afford to lose. Still kinda hoping for the upset next month, though.
     
  4. drenlou

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    It has to be Valero.
     
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  5. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Rigondeaux, Lara, Ricardo Lopez, or if you mean ended too soon then Salvador Sanchez and Stanley Ketchel.
     
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  6. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    Absolutely.
    Ike became a jail bird and Pirog got sick.
    Valero's death and his family's murder should have been investigated by an outside agency. How, at the peak of your career, just up and murder your family and yourself for no reason?
    Venezuela was a super corrupt dictatorship and Edwin was about to move to it's so called enemy the United States. Hugo Chavez had that man murdered.
     
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  7. GoldenArms

    GoldenArms Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Didn't Valero tell the hotel workers he killed his wife while he was covered in her blood? Valero was just a violent nutcase. So was Ike. Pirog just hurt his back or something
     
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  8. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    You have no idea od what Ike was. He was headed to be the natural successor to Lennox Lewis. The Klitschko brothers wouldnt be champions
     
  9. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    Didn't George Bush say Saddam Hussain had weapons of mass destruction? Don't the people of North Korea always praise their supreme leader? All I'm saying is it sounds like a mutha****a set up and a lie.
     
  10. GoldenArms

    GoldenArms Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I mean, the dude had a history of drinking and beating his wife but ok.
     
  11. GoldenArms

    GoldenArms Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I do know who Ike was, I followed his career and I voted for him because I thought he had most potential and best wins of all 3....
     
  12. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    I figure there is an astronomical list of great amateurs who would have made for great pros.
    At least with guys like Audley Harrison we got to see what they offered in the pro ranks.
     
  13. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    What happened to him was a tragedy for him & for his trainer Curtis Cokes who had Ike & Kirk Johnson both capable of winning a title both were denued it for different reasons
     
  14. alexland

    alexland student of the sweet science Full Member

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    i don't know enough about the other two, but i followed Dmitri Pirog and he was something special.

    his fight vs Danny Jacobs (among others) is on youtube

    a chronic back injury caused him to retire from boxing, probably well short of his peak, particularly given that he took up the sport quite late

    he was an exceptionally smart fighter with excellent ring IQ, solid defense and KO power

    his style involved frequent orthodox-southpaw swap, and although quite tall for a MW, his defense relied on a lot of movement from the waist (which i suppose he copied from his idol, Sugar Ray Leonard)--a smooth, fluid style that was a pleasure to watch

    Pirog was also fearless; he agreed to fight Jacobs in Jacobs' hometown

    Pirog was the underdog, indeed Pirog was chosen as an opponent so that Jacobs could win the (vacant) WBO belt in his home town, in front of his friends and family

    Pirog quickly appeared on GGG's radar and two agreed to fight and a date had been set. Pirog pulled out due to a back injury, the same one that caused him to permanently retire from boxing
     
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  15. bcr

    bcr Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The wife of Valero was sent to the hospital several times for domestic violence and Valero would often go to the hospitals to threaten the personal if they spoke about it, this hapenned in Panamá as well if I'm right, there's nothing suspicious about it, the guy was extremely violent, he learned how to fight by fighting much larger men on the street as a kid.