Most wasted talents ever

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Luigi1985, Sep 11, 2007.


  1. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hence my post, hindsight is a wonderful thing, it can and very often does make fools of us all.;)
     
  2. C. M. Clay II

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    No, you said "I knew Lewis would smash Ruddock, and it happened", implying that you had the idea that Lewis would win, and then it happened after you had the idea. Don't try and change the story around.:yep
     
  3. C. M. Clay II

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    What are you talking about?
     
  4. Luigi1985

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    It´s normal when I was born in 1985, that I don´t need to say that I think that with the wisdom of hindsight, or not? Lewis was just another league than a fighter like Ruddock, OK, he isn´t an American, perhaps some posters like you are mad therefore, but it doesn´t change it. Ruddock at his best was just a contender, nothing more, nothing less. Lewis on the other side was a great champ, so it´s not that difficult to think who would win between these two...
     
  5. C. M. Clay II

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    So you disagree that Ruddock was shot against Morrison? Why?
     
  6. C. M. Clay II

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    Hey, can't fault me for trying.:yep
     
  7. Luigi1985

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    Because you espoused T-Booze, who sounded indirectly so that if we weren´t born at that time of a fighter we couldn´t talk that good about. What´s than about Cassius Clay?
     
  8. TBooze

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    You are using 15 years of hindsight, if you went back to the summer of 1992, you probably would of been laughed at with that view.
     
  9. C. M. Clay II

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    Well, then if you really meant that, then you should have worded it a little differently.
     
  10. C. M. Clay II

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    Well, I think Ruddock would have beaten Morrison in his prime, so I think that constitutes being either shot, or way past your prime or something to that effect.:good
     
  11. Luigi1985

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    I know that Ruddock was the betting-favourite, but an insider would have favoured Lennox. Who had Ruddock beaten except 2 old and shot ex-stars in Page and Dokes? Nobody! Lennox at least beat the underrated at 35-0-0 unbeaten Gary Mason and Tyrell Biggs, that´s better than what Razor did until that time...
     
  12. C. M. Clay II

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    That's two different things. The way you worded your post about the Ruddock-Lewis fight sounded like you claimed you predicted the outcome before it happened, that's all.
     
  13. Luigi1985

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    Sorry for not speaking English perfectly! But when my nickname is Luigi1985, I originate that people know that in this year I didn´t lose my virginity for example, but I was born there...
     
  14. C. M. Clay II

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    I wasn't talking about speaking English properly, calm down. I'm just saying that maybe you shouldn't have left the impression of a Monday Morning Quarterback, that's all.
     
  15. TBooze

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    There is no way Mason was underrated, and Biggs was but a name fringe contender when he fought Lewis unlike Dokes who was a legitmate contender.

    Insiders were not sold on Lewis. The British public had not warmed to him, and as all his learning fights had been on ITV, we had seen all his flaws and he seemed very poor for an Olympic champion.

    Of course Lewis duly and thankfully proved us wrong and stuffed our criticisms of him down our throats, and that humble pie tasted good...

    But in the summer of 1992, Lewis was considered fourth of four amongst Bowe, Holyfield and Ruddock. And the insiders were backing Ruddock to come out on top amongst the four.