moving inside of the jab

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  1. The Predator

    The Predator Active Member Full Member

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    Whats´your opinion?

    When I was trained by a former pro he told me that you could go inside the jab to reach the oponents body as well as outside the jab.
    Outside the jab might be more "secure" but you have more target to hit if you go inside.
    I´ve seen Tyson do it among others.
    What are your opinions and what are your trainers opinions.
    Perhaps the pro fighters have different opinion in this than the amateurs cause I hear a lot of amateur trainers here say you can´t do it. However I also heard them say that you can´t throw an upercut with your jab arm, that is silly.
    Will be interesting to see what you think about this, going inside or outside or both?
    All the best
    The predator
     
  2. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    I do it once every while, the most important part IMO is not to be predictable with it.
     
  3. The Predator

    The Predator Active Member Full Member

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    My opinion as well, just to make sure you are wellprotected when you do it.
    The Predator
     
  4. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    well ill describe it as if you are fighting an orthodox

    i watch alot of boxing and is always in the gym watching and taking part in sparring.

    i find their both as good as each other

    if you go to the left (inside) its easier to land a left hook to the body and a right uppercut combo that works really well but you can end up really close to the guy with your shoulder on his chest and you end up not being able to throw any punches and getting told to break and your more open to a cross

    if you go to the right (outside) its easier to land a left uppercut which is a brilliant shot IMO. its also good as it is easier to get away. when i do this i land the left uppercut then move round wait until my opponent turns to face me and land a straght right on his chin as he turns.

    but its best to mix it up and practise and see what suits you best
     
  5. boxbible

    boxbible Active Member Full Member

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    The standard move should be to slip it to the outside. It is safer.

    But, once your opponent starts anticipating your slip to the outside and starts aiming for where he knows your going to move your head, you should throw in a few slips to the inside every now and then just to keep him guessing.

    But, slipping to the inside should not be your primary way to slip a jab. A feint would set you up for a right hand flush on your face as opposed to slipping to the outside where a feint followed by a right would be a little more difficult to get hit with on your part because you can still ride the punch.
     
  6. joekirkbycobra

    joekirkbycobra King Of The Ring Full Member

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    both work well
    i slip the jab both ways
    but if a had 2 pick itd be outside so im not moving onto the back hand
     
  7. Brian Zelley

    Brian Zelley Active Member Full Member

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    As far as I'm concerned, there is no best! It depends on the style of your opponent. And variety is the best technique of all.

    How about slipping the left jab to the outside while countering with
    a short left then weave in with a right.THEN: Stay and play, or slide away!
     
  8. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't do it, its possible but too difficult.

    James Toney does it, cant think of many more who do it well.
     
  9. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    Hatton does it quite a lot as well.
     
  10. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    mayweather did in his lighter days
     
  11. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Slipping inside the jab (to the right if your an orthadox fighter) is a naturally defensive manoveur that is LESS risky then an outside slip or a slip to the left. The reason fighters slip to the left is because if you pull it off correctly you open up the option of a left hook to head or body, left uppercut and your in a better position to let your shots go then your opponent.

    If you slip to the right the easiest counter is a right uppercut to the body but its difficult to get any leverage into it. If your fast and skillfull you may be able to land an uppercut to head as a counter but again leverage will be a problem. Additionally you and your opponents will end up square footed onto each other and you will, with 90% certainty end up in a clinch.

    What you do from here depends on your infighting ability.

    Slipping to the left means slipping onto the right hand (presuming your opponent is orthadox) which obviously creates worrying potential every time you try the 'move'. My suggestion would be to develop a good guard defence to the jab and use the slip to the left very sparingly. A slip to the right can happen far more frequently without risk.
     
  12. boxbible

    boxbible Active Member Full Member

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    I don't know bout y'all, but I thought slipping "inside" the jab meant slipping it to the left... and "outside" was to the right. Not to be confused with "moving" in or out.

    Otherwise, I agree with your analysis.
     
  13. The Predator

    The Predator Active Member Full Member

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    Yes what I ment when i wrote the thread was slipping inside the jab was, if you are an orthodox facing an orthodox, slipping inside the jab is to your left and slipping outside the jab is to your right. I feel that going inside the jab is very easy to go to the body of the oponent, I know a lot of people are worried about moving into the right hand but I think that if you know what you are doing and doing it real fast as slip-punch in one motion you can get away with it, with good results.
    The predator
     
  14. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Sorry gents I've always been told that slipping inside is to the right... Hope my analysis still helps.