Moving up, does power ever diminish ?

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  1. stonerose

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    any examples of this at all ? not as fighters get older, i mean prime fighters who move up in weight but maybe the extra muscle and slowing down results in less power ?
     
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  2. EpsilonAxis

    EpsilonAxis HNIC Full Member

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    Of course.

    SRL for example.

    You could argue Trinidad's power was affected from 160 up.
     
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  3. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Thomas Hearns.
    DLH.
    Duran.
    Gomez.
     
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  4. OPBF

    OPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't think that it's power that diminishes, rather than the people you fight in higher weight classes are able to handle power better than those from the lower weight classes.
     
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  5. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Still think Tito's power was overrated at MW.
     
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  6. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    In absolute terms, power doesn't diminish. However your opponents' resistance increases, so relatively, your power diminishes
     
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  7. stonerose

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    hearns managed to floor dennis andries a few times at LHW. would he have been able to do that when he was at the lower weight classes? i'm purely talking about the power of the punch .
     
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  8. EL-MATADOR

    EL-MATADOR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed, but it was till very good.
     
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  9. DINAMITA

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    Power doesn't diminish with weight, but the effect of your power on your opponent certainly diminishes as you go up in weight and your opponents become bigger, stronger, and more resilient. Guys like Floyd Mayweather and Erik Morales didn't carry their power very well up through the weights, even though they were still effective fighters at weights higher than their natural ones.

    In saying that, I think there are rare occasions where extra weight actually hampers a fighter. I don't think the 147 version of Ricky Hatton looked like he had the same snap behind his punches as the 140 version.
     
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  10. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Welterweight to Hatton is what middleweight was to DLH.

    Hatton should have started at 130, or at the very least 135.
     
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  11. stonerose

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    its said holyfield was a murderous puncher at CW .Did he actually hit harder there though ? i suppose muscle mass could slow you down and diminsh the punches. hatton is a good example.
     
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  12. djrock247

    djrock247 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Forgive me for this one. I'm about to pose one of those theoretical bull**** questions that I get pissed when someone else asks, but here goes...

    If Wlad Klitschko got down on his knees, put his hands behind his back and let Manny Pacquiao fire a straight left right down the pipe, what would the end result be???

    Again, I apologize for the foolish question, but I'm curious to hear the responses.
     
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  13. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Probably laughter from Wlad.
     
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  14. Monstar

    Monstar The Future.. Full Member

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    yeah Hearns always kept his power

    but yeah....Tito's a great example
     
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  15. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Hearns always kept a lot of his power, but some of his latter opposition (though not all, clearly) was questionable.
     
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