Moving up in weight is a sign of boxer laziness

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  1. sdot_thadon

    sdot_thadon Active Member Full Member

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    Show me otherwise. Anyone that will get named here is someone that poster isn't a fan of. Guys get called lazy for trying to win belts, what will they think of next......
     
  2. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    EVERY single fighter has posters someone isn’t a fan of. And yet it’s like you cannot fathom the idea that some are justified in their criticism, but with you, they are just…HATERS.

    You think Adrien Broner was always trying for a challenge by moving up? Same with Tank? Or is this just more of you jumping to defend Canelo’s every move? Like I said, there are some who will look for a challenge, but they are the minority.
     
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  3. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    ^^^^ I think this is the correct answer. A lot of fighters start out weight draining so much that they have to move up sooner rather than later.
     
  4. sdot_thadon

    sdot_thadon Active Member Full Member

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    Guys move up to win titles. How can that be a negative? I'll be the 1st to tell you Broner is a clown, but he won the fights he won. Tank is Tank what bothers you about him? He's entertaining and gives sleeping gas to most guys he fights. I don't care to talk about Canelo we did that enough in other threads but he moved up for the purpose of adding belts at higher weights to add to his legacy. Successfully I might add. Roy Jones made ir all the way to heavyweight, that was awesome. Pac moved up the most classes, was he lazy too or lemme guess you like him so it's cool. But not Floyd tho, am I getting it right? Moving up should happen! As a mans body matures, we get heavier. I know novel concept right? There's tons of guys who need to move up rather than draining to beat up smaller men, that's a much worse practice than moving up and beating up on bigger opponents. Anyone who isn't a heavyweight to start their career should likely move up at some point in any decent length boxing career.
     
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  5. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is no such thing as a weight bully. Fighters have been competing at the lowest weight they can forever. This is silly fanboi nonsense.
     
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  6. sdot_thadon

    sdot_thadon Active Member Full Member

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    Then why is being weight drained a widely used excuse for losses?
     
  7. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Let's be real weighing 165lb at the 140 division is ridiculous I don't like the term weight bully because my logic is if your good enough your big enough. But Haney is an exception he is a str8 weight bully.
     
  8. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It isn't a valid excuse. Not sure what point you are trying to make.

    If you contract to fight at a weight you can't make healthily, it's your fault. Fighters have to know their own bodies and whether it's time to move up.
     
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  9. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah there is, and it's not fanboy nonsense. If you have to look like a skeleton at the weigh in you're in the wrong weight class.
     
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  10. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haney is working within the rules to maximize an advantage. Totally fine not to like these huge weight cuts, and if that's the case then create a new rule that makes it more difficult for fighters to cook down. I'd be fully on board with that, especially with so many advances in nutrition.

    But when people accuse someone of being a weight bully, it's their way to diminish the accomplishments of a fighter who within the rules maximized his advantage. Which athletes do in all sports.

    Whether by genetics, youth or extreme dedication Haney is able to boil down, he gets to enjoy that advantage and it's valid. It has been a part of boxing forever.
     
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  11. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nope. Your argument is ignorant of boxing history.
     
  12. sdot_thadon

    sdot_thadon Active Member Full Member

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    I agree but it's still used as an excuse the most recent high profile one was Spence was a corspe and that's why Crawford lil boy'd him. Fighting for a belt that says 140 and you're 165 in the ring is terrible. I get the any edge possible angle but it's not honest just because the rules allow it.
     
  13. sdot_thadon

    sdot_thadon Active Member Full Member

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    Isn't the bolded exactly what this thread is doing?
     
  14. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The concept of weight classes partially loses its meaning. Putting on 25 pounds at 140 is way more than normal. It's exploiting a loophole to the extreme, and it's not respectable to me even if legal
     
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  15. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your argument is ignorant of common sense.

    There should never be a situation where there is a multiple weight class difference on fight night. Rules need changing and ideally you'd have less weight classes with same day weigh ins.