MTK Cease to exist

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by TBC-ASAP, Apr 20, 2022.

  1. Furious

    Furious Well-Known Member Full Member

    Nov 2, 2017
    Exactly. It's about the mentality and dependence rather than the NHS guidelines. The NHS still use BMI as a metric for obesity which is clearly flawed.

    Anthony Joshua would probably be classed as obese using that metric - it's ridiculously outdated with less context than a Mitch87 analysis on Tyson Fury's boxing record.
  2. high tower

    high tower Active Member Full Member

    Mar 27, 2008
    excellent post. It certainly has gotten everywhere over the last 10 years. I’ve always kept it at arms length. I know some people who can’t even go for a mid week ping before disappearing fir hours on end to go sniff. No thanks.
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  3. Jurgen

    Jurgen Pay Per Pudding Advisor banned Full Member

    Sep 30, 2016
    That is a two footed tackle into the groin of @Mitch87 :pancarta:
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  4. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

    May 31, 2010
    I think you're describing a drunk.

    Another way to look at it, if you can't go for a week without a drink without forcing yourself to, are you an alcoholic?

    How about a month? A year?

    My point was simply that just because everyone around you is doing it, doesn't make they aren't all alcoholics.

    If you took cocaine every week you'd be called a coke addict. Same for gambling or smoking imo. If there is something in your life which is embedded into your daily/weekly routine, ie it is programmed into your subconscious habit patterns, then it raises the question how much conscious control you really have over it.

    Also if you are getting triggered in some way by being labeled an alcoholic, that might be a sign to explore deeper whats going on for you.
  5. DArch

    DArch New Member Full Member

    Sep 28, 2021
    In fairness, the NHS doesn't define someone as being an alcoholic if they consume > 14 units/week. They just state that you're at increased risk of damaging your health if you take that much in, especially in a single session
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    I'd agree that BMI has many limitations, it's mainly used around the world because it's easy to measure. At the same time, in the general population, most people who have a very high BMI don't look like Anthony Joshua.
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  6. Murderers' Row

    Murderers' Row Well-Known Member Full Member

    Apr 23, 2020
    I guess I'm an alchy then. Even though I box 6 days a week and the last thing on my mind when waking up is a drink. Alright I'll take it.

    The only thing I'm addicted to is coffee, I need coffee in the morning.
  7. Bob Flaps

    Bob Flaps Active Member Full Member

    Mar 30, 2019
    I have been through spells where, due to travelling solo for work, or just out of preference, would drink 6-10 units a night. But I could stop anytime I wanted and not miss it, for days or weeks on end. Some people would have called me an alcoholic at the time but the ability to stop and start under my own will, proved otherwise.

    That being said, that kind of consumption wasn't great and I'm not desperately proud of it, but the point stands.
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  8. Erik

    Erik Active Member Full Member

    Oct 25, 2015
    If you're a fighter signed to MTK and someone from the Kinahan's comes up to you and says they want you do something like launder money for them through your purses, I don't think saying no is really an option. I know a lot of them won't be that naive and innocent in all of this, but some will. So most of the fighters should be OK, but it will be a lot harder for the likes of Macklin and Kugan to use this defence if there's enough there for the authorities to go after them.
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  9. bladesman

    bladesman Active Member Full Member

    May 31, 2015
    Guess Kugan isn't working the canelo card then...
  10. Murderers' Row

    Murderers' Row Well-Known Member Full Member

    Apr 23, 2020
    Which is what, like 3 or 4 pints a lager a day? Mate that's nothing.
  11. Trafford

    Trafford Well-Known Member Full Member

    Sep 29, 2018
    cant get into the US. Apparently Ben Davidson and Kugan were both refused entry into the country
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  12. Journey Man

    Journey Man Journeyman always. Full Member

    Aug 22, 2009
    I’d agree with you. I like a drink and drink regularly, but certainly don’t miss it when I don’t have it.

    For example my Mrs was doing a night class on Wednesdays for 9 months, so I would have a few pints and a whisky when I had the telly to myself and watch a bit of sport. Now she’s home on Wednesday’s I don’t normally bother unless I have a pint if I’m playing golf. I’ll usually drink a couple of days on the weekend, but if I don’t have a drink on a Saturday because my plans don’t allow it I certainly don’t miss it, but I enjoy it when I do have it.
  13. TBC-ASAP

    TBC-ASAP Boxing Addict Full Member

    Sep 7, 2017
    Going to possibly make certain fights going to purse bids really risky. If you have Pro/MTK fighter. If you lose the bid to an American you risk having to give up your position because you can't get to the states.
  14. TBC-ASAP

    TBC-ASAP Boxing Addict Full Member

    Sep 7, 2017
    Sunny Edwards vacating his belts after being refused entry into the states would be very funny
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  15. Trafford

    Trafford Well-Known Member Full Member

    Sep 29, 2018
    I believe the fighters are being left alone but the teams etc are not. So someone trained by Danny Vaughan for instance is in a tricky spot
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