Muay Thai fighter vs Boxer?

This being a boxing forum, the crude results of the poll in the UFC Fighters vs Boxers thread show that amongst those who participated in the poll, most believe that the boxer would win in an MMA rules match where the advantage should technically be for the MMA fighter.

The basic argument against the UFC fighter is that they are sub-optimal strikers, and that they're jack of all trades and master of none, therefore they are not likely to win against a boxer who is a skilled striker.

Let's narrow the contrast a little bit - who do you think has the advantage in a Muay Thai match (ie. elbows, knees, stand up clinching & strikes from clinch allowed)? Both are striking specialists, the boxer is still has punching expertise, and one could argue that the Muay Thai fighter is a jack of all striking trades since they spread their striking training over range of striking weapons that extend beyond their fists.

So, Muay Thai fighter or the Boxer?

 

But you could argue that a boxer doesn't not have a takedown defence either, because that's what an MMA fighter is going to do against a skilled boxer, yet most people here argue that a boxer still has the advantage?

 

I'd agree with that, yes.

Actually that reminds of something I was thinking of previously. The boxer also has some serious in-fighting weapons in the the hooks, the shovel hooks and the uppercuts. Would they not be able to stand up against the knee and elbows?

 

That looked painful. I looked up Ignashov's opponent Carter Williams, I expected to find a boxer but his wikipedia page says he's a kickboxer and mma fighter as well? If that's the case, I'd have expected him to have offered some decent defence against Ignashov's kicks?? What happened??

 

haha alright that makes more sense, all I looked at was the last name when I was looking through Ignashov's fights on his wikipedia page. At least now, from this clip I can see this Williams fighting as described on his page.

 

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