Muhamad Ali vs the pound 4 pound greats.

I don't think so although Jones could possibly trouble a past-prime Ali a bit.

 

It's certainly possible...:think

 

Ali wouldn't have much to worry about in any of these fights. Ali has the right combination of size (height, reach, and weight), speed (hand and foot), strength, power, durability, stamina, defense, and overall skill.

IMO, Ezzard Charles would be a tougher opponent than any of the men mentioned above.

 

Ali vs Fitzsimmons

I think Ali's speed troubles Fitzsimmons greatly as Ali throws his fast shots and Ruby Rob cannot move his head out of the way or parry. Fitz then has to turn it into a war and he can't pin down the fleet footed Ali as he darts around the ring, pinging combinations off the ginger's head. I would feel that Ali would stop Fitzsimmons at some point just due to so much punishment.

I cannot comment on Langford as I do not know enough about him.

Ali vs Greb

This is an interesting one. Greb has the chin to take Ali's punches could probably (not definite) match Ali for speed and has a very unorthodox style that could pose Ali problems. I think Ali would have problems early with Grebs odd style and fast changes of direction and punches from all angles. Ali would have to establish his jab which he would manage and he could time Greb with the right and perhaps keep Greb off of him (not for long though). A very tough fight for Ali indeed but I think he takes about a 10-5 sort of decision.

Ali vs Jones Jr

Two guys who broke the boxing fundamental rule book. Of the two I think Ali is truer to form and the better technician, and this would bode well. Jones though is slightly faster and Ali would never have seen that before. Again Ali has to establish the jab and he would get to do it IMO and could keep Jones off, although Jones footspeed would help him as he could get in range and land afew shots before skipping away, but I think Ali could time him and actually knock him out at some point with a well placed right hand.


Note: In my mind the Ali of the second Liston fight and later until the ban was his prime and so accordingly I used 'that' Ali when thinking of the fights.

 

All of them lose. Langford troubles Ali the most I think. Fitz was too stationary, Greb just too small and was beaten by Tunney who was something like Ali before there was Ali. Roy matches Ali in handspeed but overall would be the one of the who is most out of his depth.

 

I think he owuld fare better than Fitzsimmons.

 

Nah, Fitz was a tremendous bodypuncher and while he would be thouroughly outboxed he would land some to the body. And these would make Ali more cautious. I can't see Roy doing something similar. Roy would not be much faster than Ali if at all. And he has nothing else that could trouble Ali. All the others have something to trouble him a bit. Fitz and Langford the punch. Langford and Greb the pressure and Greb the workrate. Roy doesn't have any of these. Roy is the least proven hw of these for a reason I think. here is a gap between the first three and Roy as good as he was.

 

But Fitz is much more static and relied on counterpunching at times (with quick head and hand movements). Ali would force him to move and Ali would take advantage of his lack of height/reach and his lack of footspeed in reaching Ali. But I see what you are at with the body punches, I just cant see Fitz getting close enough regulary to land them to make them a real issue to Ali.

Jones on the other hand has the footspeed IMO to get inside and land afew shots from time to time but for the most would be getting out jabbed in a fairly boring fight. Very cautious fight.

 

Wow , what does it say about littlle old 160 pound Harry Greb, even in the equation, as an opponent with a 215 pound Ali?.,,Greb was something though....

 

Fitz was tricky. Bery good a feinting and setting traps and good enough to land some of his shots at Ali's body. And imo enough to make Ali cautious and settle for a points win instead of going for he (t)KO.

I don't think Jones was fast enough to get inside without eating some counters. And I don't think Jones would like beeing countered by Ali. He would get even more cautious and still would get knocked out.

 

Wait a minute. Fitz was a ginger?

 

Yes he was. So was Greb as it happened.

 

They'd all get beat up and stopped in 1 sided fights, Jones may nick a few rounds due to his speed though