Muhamed Ali's full amatuer career record

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    For those who have not seen it, this is pretty interesting. If you want to win a bar bet, Ali even once lost a bout via TKO in one on cuts in 1957 to a boxer named Terry Hodge. Enjoy:

    Muhammad Ali (Cassius Marcellus Clay, Jr.)

    Born: January 17, 1942 in Louisville, Kentucky


    Amateur record: reported as 99-8, 134-7, or 161-6


    1954


    Nov 12 Ronnie O'Keefe W 3 (unan) Louisville
    WAVE opener - first amateur fight Dec 11 Elmer Dennison W 3 (splt) Louisville 110



    1955


    Jan 14 George Wheeler TKO 2 Louisville 103 WAVE main Feb 3 James Baker W 3 Louisville 117 Louisville Novice GG Tourn. BA Semis Feb 4 James Davis L 3 Louisville 118 Louisville Novice GG Tourn. BA Finals Jul 22 John Hampton W 3 (splt) Louisville 108 WAVE opener Jul 28 John Hampton L 3 Louisville
    Sep 23 John Bobbitt TKO 3 Louisville 131 WAVE semi


    1956


    Aug 18 Rudolph Baker KO 2 Louisville
    WAVE semi Oct 27 Roy Dudley W 3 (unan) Louisville
    WAVE main Nov 17 James Fluorney W 3 (unan) Louisville
    WAVE main Dec 1 Bill Wikstrom W 3 (unan) Louisville 152 WAVE main Dec 15 Lou Chapman W 3 (unan) Louisville
    WAVE semi


    1957

    Feb 9 William F. May W 3 (unan) Louisville 158 Louisville Novice GG Tourn. MI Finals
    (won Bob Colglazier Trophy for Most Aggressive Boxer in Tournament) Mar 16 Johnny Cecil W 3 (splt) Louisville 162 WAVE main Jun 15 Donnie Hall W 3 (unan) Louisville 162 WAVE main Jul 6 Donnie Hall L 3 (splt) Louisville 167 WAVE main Aug 3 Donnie Hall W 3 (splt) Louisville 167 WAVE main Aug 30 Jimmy Ellis W 3 (unan) Louisville
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    Oct. 12 Jimmy Ellis L 3 (splt) Louisville

    Oct. 26 Donnie Hall TKO 4 (0:35) Louisville 163 WAVE main Nov 25 Donnie Hall W 3 (unan) Louisville 167


    1958


    Feb 8 Roger Stinnett w/o Louisville 170 Louisville Open GG Tourn. LH Finals Feb 25 Alex Watt W 3 (unan) Chicago
    Chicago Tourn. Of Champs LH 1st Rd. Feb 25 Francis Turley W 3 (unan) Chicago
    Chicago Tourn. Of Champs LH 2nd Rd.
    (Clay down in 2nd round)


    Feb 26 Kent Green TKO by 2 Chicago
    Chicago Tourn. of Champs LH Quarter. Apr 5 Donald Lee W 3 (unan) Louisville
    WAVE semi Apr 10 Steve Appleberry W 3 (unan) Cincinnati

    May 31 Charles Westmoreland W 3 (unan) Louisville
    WAVE semi Jun 11 Donnie Hall w/o Louisville 172 Hall sustained hand injury prior to bout Jul 26 Charley Baker W 3 (unan) Louisville 177 WAVE main (Baker weighed 200) Sep 13 Kirth Vance W 3 (unan) Louisville 164 WAVE main Oct 6 Walter Givens W 3 (unan) Louisville
    Mayor's Youth Boxing Tournament Nov 1 Wilson Taylor TKO 2 (0:10) Louisville 165 WAVE main


    1959




    Feb 18 Charles Dobbins W 3 (unan) Louisville
    Louisville Open GG Tourn. LH Finals Mar 3 Junie Hall KO 2 Chicago
    Chicago Tourn. of Champs LH 1st Rd. Mar 4 Willie McMillan W 3 Chicago
    Chicago Tourn. of Champs LH Quarter Mar 4 Cliff Murkey W 3 (unan) Chicago
    Chicago Tourn. of Champs LH Semis Mar 11 Jeff Davis W 3 Chicago
    Chicago Tourn. of Champs LH Finals Mar 25 Tony Madigan W 3 (unan) Chicago
    Won Inter-City GG LH Title Apr 2 Reginald Brown TKO 3 (1:19) Toledo
    National AAU LH 1st Round Apr 3 Art Toombs W 3 (unan) Toledo
    National AAU LH Quarters Apr 3 Lindy Lindmoser W 3 (unan) Toledo
    National AAU LH Semis Apr 4 Johnny Powell W 3 (unan) Toledo
    National AAU LH Finals Apr 28 Leroy Bogar, Jr. TKO 2 (1:42) Madison
    Pan-Am Games Trials LH 1st round Apr 29 James Jackson W 3 (unan) Madison
    Pan-Am Games Trials LH Semis Apr 30 Amos Johnson L 3 (splt) Madison
    Pan-Am Games Trials LH Finals May 23 Chester Winters W 3 (unan) Louisville 167 WAVE main Jul 4 Eddie Larkins W 3 (unan) Louisville
    WAVE main Jul 11 Cleo Horton W 3 (unan) Indianapolis

    Jul 20 Herb Wills W 3 (unan) Cincinnati

    Jul 30 Art Toombs W 3 (unan) Cleveland

    Oct 28 Harold Coleman W 3 (unan) Louisville
    Payne Memorial Fund bout Nov 20 Johnny McGrove W 3 (unan) Louisville
    WAVE main Dec 12 Cornelius Johnson W 3 (unan) Louisville 174 WAVE semi

    1960

    Feb 1 William Page TKO 3 (1:57) Louisville 180 Kentucky GG Heavyweight Quarters Feb 3 Asia Page TKO 1 (1:5:cool: Louisville 180 Kentucky GG Heavyweight Semis Feb 4 Ronnie Craddock TKO 2 (1:34) Louisville
    Kentucky GG Heavyweight Finals Mar 1 John Wilson TKO 1 (1:37) Chicago
    Chicago Tourn. Of Champ HE 1st Rd. Mar 1 Henry Harris, Jr. TKO 3 (1:14) Chicago
    Chicago Tourn. Of Champ HE 2nd Rd. Mar 2 Bill Nielsen W 3 (unan) Chicago
    Chicago Tourn. Of Champ HE Quarters Mar 2 Al Jenkins W 3 (unan) Chicago
    Chicago Tourn. Of Champ HE Semis Mar 9 Jimmy Jones W 3 (unan) Chicago
    Chicago Tourn. Of Champ HE Finals Mar 21 Gary Jawish TKO 3 (1:59) New York
    Won Intercity GG Heavyweight Title Apr 7 Joe Reynolds W 3 (unan) Toledo
    National AAU LH 1st Round Apr 8 Ray Whetstone TKO 2 (1:15) Toledo
    National AAU LH Quarterfinals Apr 9 Billy Joiner W 3 (unan) Toledo
    National AAU LH Semifinals Apr 9 Jeff Davis TKO 2 (1:25) Toledo
    National AAU LH Finals Apr 14 Roy Ector TKO 3 (0:55) Louisville
    East.Reg'n Olympic Trials LH Quarters Apr 15 Fred Walden TKO 3 (2:59) Louisville
    East.Reg'n Olympic Trials LH Semis Apr 16 Charles Hannah TKO 2 (2:49) Louisville
    East.Reg'n Olympic Trials LH Finals May 18 Henry Cooper TKO 3 San Francisco
    U.S. Olympic Trials LH Quarters May 19 Fred Lewis W 3 San Francisco
    U.S. Olympic Trials LH Semis May 20 Allen Hudson TKO 3 San Francisco
    U.S. Olympic Trials LH Finals Aug 30 Yvon Because TKO 2 (1:50) Rome
    Olympics Light Heavy 1st Round Sep 1 Genadiy Schatkov W 3 (unan) Rome
    Olympics Light Heavy Quarterfinals Sep 3 Tony Madigan W 3 (unan) Rome
    Olympics Light Heavy Semifinals Sep 5 Zbigniew Pietrzykowski W 3 (unan) Rome
    Olympics Light Heavy Finals
     
    Mendoza, Mar 28, 2009
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  2. ThinBlack

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    Asia Page must be Greg's uncle.
     
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  3. mcvey

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    It would be pretty interesting stuff, if we knew who Muhamed Ali was. :huh

    The most famous boxer the world has ever known ,and you can't spell his name right ? :patsch

    Amatuer ?:-(
     
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  4. North Star

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    A fascinating post. I did not know Ali had more than 100 amateur fights.

    Many thanks!

    :)
     
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  5. Nightcrawler

    Nightcrawler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol::lol: i finally thought this was ONE thread where you guys would get along
     
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  6. hofguy

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    In Jose Torres' book " Sting Like a Bee" he says Ali had 180 amateur fights. He also says that Ali had a third fight with Tony Madigan, one that shows in the record as being with Kent Green. I'll quote the paragraph from the book.
    "In 1958, Cassius won the Louisville Golden Gloves light heavyweight crown and advanced to the quarter-finals in the Tournament of Champions in Chicago before suffering his first defeat, at the hands of Tony Madigan, who was later to meet him in a crucial bout in the 1960 Olympics.
    He was hurt in the stomach, Martin recalls, and I signaled the referee to stop it. I didn't want the kid to get hurt unnecessarily."
     
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  7. Stevie G

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    And he started out at 12 years of age !
     
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  8. mcvey

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    I agree with some of his posts, chiefly those not concerning turn of the century fighters.
     
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  9. johnmaff36

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    Mendoza, it makes no mention of Clay getting beat by percy price in the olympic trials at heavyweight before he went as light heavy. Have you any info on this?
     
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  10. Vinegar Hill

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    Percy Price! Was he an English aristocrat or something? :lol:
     
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  11. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I'll check. Another topic of interest is how close the gold medal match was.
     
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  12. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    You often have an ax to grind on accomplished white heavyweight, and remain obtuse toward many posters.
     
    Mendoza, Aug 19, 2014
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  13. mcvey

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    Objectivity and you are total strangers ,not only couldn't you spell it you have no conception of what it means.
     
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  14. heavy_handss

    heavy_handss Guest

    who is muhamed?
     
    heavy_handss, Aug 19, 2014
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  15. Dubblechin

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    I read Jose Torres' book on Tyson years ago, and I remember there were a number of factual errors in the first chapter alone.

    If Torres wrote that in the book about Ali, that's a big error.

    I do know that when Ali regained the title from Spinks, there were articles published that Ali wanted to fight Kent Green again, because Green was the only man (to that point) who had ever stopped Ali. And he did so in 1958. And Green, who had a brief pro career and at that time lived in Chicago and was working in some job, had been in training because he wanted to fight Ali, too. I think they even had a big exhibition fight in 1979.

    So I think Kent Green and Muhammad Ali - who talked about the fight Green stopped him in at length - knew more about it than Jose Torres did.

    There's also a brief 3 minute documentary on Madigan (type Tony Madigan V Cassius Clay) which also states he only fought Clay twice (1959 and 1960) - and lost both. (They even have clips and an interview with Madigan after the pre-Olympic loss.)

    There are also newspaper reports from 1958 the following day who say Green beat Clay.

    The only person who apparently has confused a black light heavy/heavyweight from Chicago with a white light heavyweight from Australia was Jose Torres.
     
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