Muhammad Ali 1974 v Ike ibeabuchi on his best night.

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  1. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This one's just entered my head.
     
  2. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Interesting one and a real 50-50 in my eyes. Can't see how Ali can stop Ike and he certainly shouldn't employ the rope a dope tactics, because Ike will just keep throwing. Although Ali has a lot less spring in his step compared to younger versions, he still has the speed and boxing skills, equipped with his mental strength to outbox Ike and if any man could deal with the pressure Ike would put on him, it is Ali.

    Ali decision by 2 or 3 rounds in a 12 or 15 rounder whilst being rocked a few times.
     
  3. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I see a competitive bout culminating in Muhammad stopping Ike late in the proceedings.
     
  4. frankenfrank

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    Unless Sandy Saddler is in Ibeabuchi's corner , I think that not even loose ropes and heat will stop d African native whom warred Tua 4 almost every minute of 12 rds and stopped Byrd due 2 a punch landed while Byrd on d ropes from stopping Ali .
     
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  5. Stevie G

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    :lol: So Ike would accomplish what even Joe Frazier could n't do,eh ?
     
  6. salty trunks

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    Ike on his best night had trouble with guys that boxed and moved. Now he would be facing argueably the best heavyweight ever at boxing and moving. Ike would look stupid in this one and lose one sided.

    Ike wasnt near the finished product, but he had a great style for his era of boxing and would have come on to be a dominant force because of his style. He was big strong and quick and could fight well.
     
  7. Stevie G

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    Shame Ike was such a scumbag because he could have achieved something.
     
  8. frankenfrank

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    Ibeabuchi hit harder than Frazier and might have had less difficulty at reaching Ali . D Ali of 1974 that i saw was not much mobile or at least did not try 2b mobile due 2 some reasons . Also it's not a stretch 2 believe that Ibeabuchi could outdo d Frazier of 1975 .
    Even wrestling Ibeabuchi (unless Ike drank Sandy Saddler's magic potion) might have been a foolish thing 2 try .
     
  9. ron u.k.

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    Ibeabuchi seems to be getting better as every year passes. At this rate he's going to end up an ATG.
     
  10. salty trunks

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    Ike had that intangible that we saw in former ATG's shortly before him. The Klitschkos never had it. The most important intangible, the ability to fight, a good solid chin, plus he had the that size and atheletic ability. He was going to be that next PPV attraction, like Holyfield, Tyson and Bowe before him. He brought a lot of excitement to boxing with his style.
    He was still green in the boxing department and he was still learning how to deal with boxers with footwork and outside skills, but he did a number on Chris Byrd, which showed his uncanny speed for a big man, and his fight with Tua showed his heart, chin and will to win. Ike had what it took to be great physically and mentally in the ring, he just didnt have what it took to be successful outside of it. You have to almost be crazy to be a heavyweight prizefighter, but Ike was just a little too crazy..
     
  11. PowerPuncher

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    I rate Ike highly but he's just too slow here, he pushes past prime Ali all the way though
     
  12. Xplosive

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    Ike was a head case. Ali was the ultimate master of getting in a fighter's head. Nuff said.

    Ali frustrates Ike, then beats his ass.
     
  13. Azzer85

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    Ike had a good chin, big, strong guy, lots of stamina.

    This fight would be very tough for Ali, HOWEVER i did notice some cracks in Ikes invincibility, he seemed very frustrated against Byrd, u can tell the look on his face after one of the rounds. The longer this fight goes on, the more i feel Ike may do something crazy. Yes i know he went the distance with Tua, but Tua stood in front of him, something Ali wont do.

    Its a 50/50 fight, but i see Ike losing his sanity somewhere in the later rounds, on top of that, you also have to take into consideration Alis mindgames.
     
  14. champio

    champio New Member Full Member

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    i love ali.everytime i wise ali will win.Ali is better anyone.
     
  15. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes , Ali wins this via press conference talk and staredown . Then ike gets frustrated from being rope-a-doped , ali lands d anchor punch and it's over . ike later claims that he dislocated his shoulder and didn't get sufficient room service during his training cump . that made him so angry he forgot 2 poo and ali's mindgames cost him in ability 2 concentrate during peeing so he had 2 p as well . Sandy Saddler stole his Ping bottle , so he couldn't pu nor p between rds .