Muhammad Ali 1974 v Riddick Bowe 1992

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  1. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Ali was much faster. I think if anything the strength department would be closer to even. If Foreman couldnt manhandle Ali Bowe won't.
     
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  2. Johnny_B

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    How can Ali ever win when Bowe is superior in every aspect (except for speed, which is really close) ?
     
  3. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just watched Bowe Holyfield 1 again before posting here and noticed two things I forgot. Bowes stamina was def underrated then and he in no way looks like he’s 6”5 lol. Was damn shocked he averaged like 65 punches a round through the first five rounds. Big guys today come nowhere near that.
    Bowe def could win that fight but Ali was stronger on the inside then Holyfield and a more accurate puncher in my opinion. Prime Ali wins every time but 74 Ali takes it 7/10.
     
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  4. Cojimar 1946

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    If that was the case why was Bowe thrashed by Andrew Golota?

    Ali has better defense clearly
     
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  5. ETM

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    Ali had better skills from the outside, superior footwork, just as strong, great chin. The only way I see Bowe winning is if Ali stood toe to toe. Ali was also smarter. He would get off first then move or tie Bowe up. Rinse and repeat.
     
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  6. Sanxion

    Sanxion New Member Full Member

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    I would agree with this. The Ali of the second Frazier fight/Foreman is still too much for any other heavyweight in history!
     
  7. CroBox29

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    Ali would outsmart Bowe, Bowe could have been even better but the problem was his poor work ethic...
     
  8. George Crowcroft

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    Coz this isn't true. Ali was smarter, faster, better chin, more experienced, better feet ect. He was the better boxer. Bowe was more physical, and a better infighter but that's probably it. If Ali can out-muscle George Foreman, I'm saying he can out-muscle Bowe too.

    Also you know as well as I do that styles make fights, sometimes when faced with a complicated style, a fighter's superiority goes out the window.
     
  9. Johnny_B

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    Can't you read the name of the thread ?!
    We are talking about a 92 Bowe, which trained properly and was focused, not about a 96 Bowe, who was past his best and was too lazy to train. And Bowe still won those matches with Golota.
     
  10. Johnny_B

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    No he didn't. Ali's footwork wasn't great anymore in 74. And it doesn't matter anyway. Bowe wins it with ease, he was far more skilled than any version of Ali.
     
  11. Johnny_B

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    The difference in speed is minimal and thus irrelevant. Ali had a great chin, but he is clearly overrated in this department. Foreman simply didn't manage to land any clean shots, otherwise Ali would have been KO'd. And Ali didn't out-muscle Foreman, he simply tricked him.
    Ali was not the better boxer since Bowe was far more skilled.
     
  12. Cojimar 1946

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    No reason to think the 1992 Bowe does any better against Golota he was still prime in 1996 only 28 years old. Golota dominated both fights prior to fouling out
     
  13. Cojimar 1946

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    Bowe fought very few highly ranked opponents. He never proved himself against a variety of styles
     
  14. ETM

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    You seem to rate Bowe a little better than what he actually was. I do agree he was a fine fighter. He would have his moments.
     
  15. ETM

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    This is a different subject yes there is reason to think he would've done better.