Muhammad Ali at his best vs. Wladimir Klitschko at his best, who wins?

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To be fair, the onus is on both sides to demonstrate that their chosen era was more skilled.

Personally, I think the 1960s and early 1970s fighters on average showed more "skill" than their 90s/00's equivalents, but had a lot less mass and hitting power. Both eras had their slicksters and their clunkier guys, though.

A few trends that you will notice right away if you watch older 60s/70s color fights: the old timers are more mobile, show a wider variety of punches, throw more combinations, and use more (and more consistent) head movement than their 90s/00s counterparts. Their footwork is better, and they can get around the ring more easily. Today's guys tend to fight in a more standup, stationary way -- possibly due in part to puffier gloves making it easier to block punches like Winky Wright once did.

Of course, 1960s/70s fighters could move like that partly because they were somewhat smaller men who emphasized cardio more heavily than moderns. If you don't mind earlier -- but very clear -- black and white film, watch the first round or two of Ali-Patterson I. They move like freaking middleweights.

 

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Foreman was more successful than Frank Bruno in the 90s, when Foreman was ancient.

And that's coming from somebody who thinks that Klitschko would steamroll most of the 1970s field.

 

67 Ali would EASILY outbox Wladimir Klitschko because we saw how he masterfully dismantled the greatly feared Cleveland Williams.

The man was so fast he could throw 1000 punches in the blink of an eye. His legs were so quick he could sprint 100m in 3 seconds flat!

The man was truly fearsome.

It's said that Chuck Norris checks under his bed every night for Ali.

 

The "prime"-haha- wladimir beat bums and unathletic mediocre guys.
The not prime Ali destroyed Foreman.
Just these klittards can believe w. k. was better because he beat leapai,mormeck,
"pinaeta",povetkin...

 

Bruno beat the "prime" Lewis destroyer McCall.
Plus Bruno wasn't bad against the unbeaten Lennox.
Foreman wasn't better than Bruno in the 90s.
Considering the **** Briggs beat Foreman.
George father had big problem with Alex Stewart.
All in all george had only decent win in the 90s the glass-chinned Moorer.
Who was the idiota who said George's 90s carrier was better
than Bruno's ?

 

Don't forget some wladimir klitoris' opponents problems.!
-Chagaev: hepatitis-b
-Brewster: eye(detached retina)
-"Pinaeta": He's a cancer survivor
-Mercer was 41 years old
-Thompson was 40 years old
-Mormeck was 39 years old
-Haye:Maybe he had a broken little toe
-Botomawungu was 40 years old
-Vujecic was 37 years old
-C. Sanders was 37 years old and total out of shape but
he destroyed wladimir klitoris easily.
-Wladimir has a nice 36 years old opponent collection:
Rahman,Thompson 1. fight,,Nicholson,Wills,Wingfield,
Pritchard,Austin
Oh Austin! I think his opinion is Ibragimov was harder puncher
than wladimir klitoris.
Wladimir klitoris' punching power is overrated.But VASTLY !
By a Botha's opinion TYSON (the klitoris fans' biggest enemy)
was harder puncher than wladimir klitoris.

Otherwise a Puritty,Sanders type **** didn't beat Ali.

 

Ali was too small for Wlad. His punching power as he admitted was average at best. Wlad would control him like he did Chris Byrd twice. He outweighs Ali by over 30 lbs. and has two-fisted knockout power. Wlad, like Larry Holmes has a power left jab that would back Ali up and set him up for overhand rights, left hooks off the jab or outside hooks like the ones that floored the 250lb. Undefeated Pulev. Ali was great in his day when he towered over most of his opponents. He would be a small man in today's heavyweight world.

 

If David haye could go 12 rounds with Wladimir, then ali for sure would have gone 12 rounds against him. Alis faster, the better boxer, and has higher boxing iq then Wladimir. The only thing going for Wladimir in this matchup is his size and ko power.

And If David haye could get to Wladimir before the fight then Ali sure would have gotten into his head.

 

Dont see how exactly Ali would beat Klitschko at his best. Klitschko will be with 30 poumds heavier and thats a lot. Klitschko is fast enough to hit anyone and hes power can put anyone on sleep.
I would go with Wlad late stops Ali.
If we look by 1 match, we can clearly say if Ali could lose to that one, then Klitschko will kill him. If Ali can be hit by this man, then Klitschko will jab him all night ....
No matter what a i**** Haye is, he is great boxer and hes speed is junst insane.

 

Its not only the weight. Fights this days are very tacticals. Boxer just dont go for straight exchanges. Look at most Tyson opponents, they know what power Tyson have, but they still go for open exchange ....
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF-sxSipAMs[/url]

 

LOL so Ali would have to run away to win the fight.THATS THE GREATEST.One jab from Wlad will have Ali on the back foot,Wlad would control the range and will only need to land a few power shots a round to be in control.

 

Yes - size is everything in the today's Heavyweight division. Gross overemphasis on the advantages of size, in terms of power, while dismissing clear disadvantages, in respect to mobility and stamina, is the order of today.

More important, however, is the implication that winning Boxing matches has little to do with Boxing skills in the modern Heavyweight division, didn't you know? Size trumps Boxing ability, every time.

Even 'The Greatest' would be overwhelmed by Wladimir Klitschko's size. Ali's skills are neutralised at the weigh-in - in a way that Corrie Sanders' and Lamon Brewster's weren't.

The Klittism: "Wlad is too big for the Heavyweights of past eras..." is the staple fallacy for the modern-day Klitschko fanatic.

 

Ali too fast with his feet and hands.

He'd wobble and stun Wlad all night with his right hand.

Land 2 jabs for ever 1 Wlad jab

 

You mention Sanders and Brewster, but the 2007+ version of Klitschko with Manny wont lose to this 2 guys. We already see what happen in Brester in 2007 ....
Klitschko have all the tools to beat not only Alie but everyone in the past. The most fun part is that people dont realize how fast Klitschko is. He have all, Power, size, height, reach, speed, defence, technique, tactics to beat all of the past greats.
Klitschko have both size, height and reach advantage and is fast enough to hit Ali.
Its kinda stupid to make such comparison, cause everyone can make statement for either of them.
I also dont agree on this, that this era is weak. I cant accept that. There is so much different style and boxer and just Tyson say athletes get better with time, its so hard to be at top for so much long. Im sure if both Klitschko wasnt there, the title should probably change from one to another in 2-3 years of time ...