Muhammad Ali at his best vs. Wladimir Klitschko at his best, who wins?

He can do none of the things you listed, but he is arguably the greatest Heavyweight boxer to ever live, and he beat fighters that are better than Wlad/Vitali so I'm not sure why you would think he would have to be able to "walk on water" or "punch through brick walls" to win. He's simply a better fighter and it's not really a debate to most who know boxing.

 

Ahhh...chill out on the Phins fan stuff, dude made an idiotic post, but come on man no need to kick us all when we're down, show some decency here.

 

why do these polls exist? surely peeps have commonsense?

 

Ali couldn't be beat, sure he cheated to beat little Henry Cooper after he was knocked silly by the English journeyman, and lost to Norton 3 times (got 2 gift decisions) but he was the best, he said so himself.

 

oh I see what you mean.

Past prime Klits can wreck Ali. It'd be a cruel 70th birthday suprise for Muhammed though.

 

Wlad stops Ali. The only boxer who could ever beat prime Klitschko is Lennox Lewis.

 

Absolutely. His 'greatness' it the biggest hype job of boxing ever.

 

As you can see...I soley used the Haye fight to gauge on how I think the fight will go down...out of today's HW, Haye is the cloeset thing to Ali in terms of athleticism...Haye does have good head movement, so does Ali...I saw how Haye's head movement caused Wlad to get frustrated at times (along with all of that flopping as well, lol)

Given Ali's footwork, head movement, ring generalship, and charisma, I think its going to be hard for Wlad to fight timid like he's been doing as of lately.

IMO, Wlad has to open up a little bit more to get a KD....If you look at the people that had success against Ali, pressed the action in which I seriously doubt...Not saying a KD isnt possible, just highly unlikely.

Cant aruge that point...Wlad does do a good job at controlling the distance, with that being said...He's gonna have to open up a little to get to Ali. IMO, if he sits back and just jab and occasionaly throw the right hand behind the jab...I think he's gonna get pick apart and lose decision.

He's gonna need to be mentally and physically strong for this match-up...He's gonna really need it!

Head movement is going to be the key...Ali's chin is tested and I think he's gonna evade the big right hand for most of the night (just my opinion)

:rofl:rofl Thats why I love ESB sometimes. too funny!

 

Amen. If you boast about something long enough and loud enough, people will start to believe it.
You could ask the 'King of Pop' kiddie fiddler Michael Jackson about that if he wasn't a deceased piece of ****.

 

:rofl:rofl

 

Rant? Are you on crack?
I gave an opinion which I believe. What are people learning from YET another Klit v's thread. Oh yeah **** ALL.

YetanotherKLITfan...... TWAT.

 

did Michael ever go about proclaiming his greatness? never heard it myself.


He was an exceptionally successful black man, if thats the comparison you are drawing attention to.

 

some of the comments on here are frankly shocking

 

That doesn't mean he beats every HW in history. Styles make fights and Wlad is a terrible matchup for Ali.

Between the two brothers I think Ali has a much much better chance of scoring a win vs. Vitali. He could get a solid UD 12 win here, Vitali is just too slow and cumbersome.

 

David Haye, a blown up cruiserweight, stood infront of Wlad for 12 rounds, with his hands by his side, and pretty much avoided Wlad's jab the entire fight. I mean he didnt do anything else and ended up losing every single round, but he showed that with good lateral movement and quick footspeed, wlad's jab can be avoided.

now Ali, someone with MUCH more speed than Haye, and ten times better than haye in every other technical department, its reasonable to assume he would also nullify Wlad's jab while pot shotting him throughout to earn a UD.

It might be tense and tight and wlad would nick a few rounds, but Ali would win a UD imo