Muhammad Ali gives a very interesting analysis on Jack Dempsey

Yep, Gene Tunney, who weighed in as a super middleweight a year before their fight. It's always a good time watching the classic forum geeks trying to justify their weirdness in the main forum.

 

Ali would have beaten Dempsey in a wide decision or stoppage.

 

I never said Dempsey would beat Ali by any means, only that you guys refuse to give him(or Tunney) for that matter the proper respect. Whatever...

 

I give them respect as fighters IN THEIR DAY!

 

"Old Time" Fighters=overrated

 

Exactly!

I'm a huge fan of Louis and Robinson because they had a high skill level but when you start throwing Dempsey, Willard, Sharkey and **** in there you lose me!

 

He is right. In that state? He would whoop either of them. Badly.

In the same breath you would have to compensate for nutrition, size, and development of the sport of boxing.

Questions like that are impossible to answer, but I think it is safe to say that Ali could whip just about anyone at HW in his prime. He just moved to well for a guy of his size.

 

when your a heavyweight and you go 25 rounds and fight two times a month, then of course he's in better shape then todays heavyweights.

 

Klit's or Lewis KO's Ali in 9 rds.

Truth is there's greater gap been boxers of today and 40 years ago than there was between boxers of the 1960-1970 and 1920-30's. The recent huge advancements in "nutrition," training, and ability to study film are the reason. But just wait for the gene doping if you really want to see something.

Of course one of you will say that this is really stupid and that you saw SRR and he was incredible.

 

Dempsey is simply too small, it's irrelevant how skilled he is, I think either Klitschko **** his world up. That being said, Ali would damn sure **** him up, no disrespect to Dempsey, I'm not trying to run the man down, as I respect his place in history and I respect his place in boxing but the bottom line is dude doesn't have the sheer force to stand up to today's heavy's.

 

Look what a hard time Tunney gave him ,can you imagine if that was Ali.....Forget about it,Ali would have boxed his ears off!!!

 

It's definitely clear that Ali would have boxed his way to an easy UD. I think Dempsey could probably take out Wlad though, break that egg chin into pieces.

 

No I don't particularly rate Willard. But I also think Frazier is quite overrated, mostly by Ali fans. Many of the greats would knock him out. Ever seen his fight with journeyman Ron Stander. Stander had him rocked in round 4. If Dempsey got one of his thunderous shots in - just one - Frazier would be a out of there just like he was against Foreman.

 

Ali trash talking. I'm pretty sure he'd have a much different opinion today. This was in the time where racial tensions and resentment were at an all time high. I really don't think Dempsey would be a bum today. Ali himself got 2 scares by a lesser fighter in Henry Cooper and I really doubt Cooper was a better puncher than
Dempsey was. Another thing. Any real boxing fan will tell you some of the most skillful fighters came from the older generations. Yes, they are skilled today, but no one is going to make me believe their is a fighter today more skilled than Willie Pep, Benny Leonard, or Sugar Ray Robinson just to name a few. The era or technology has nothing to do with will to learn and master a discipline.