Muhammad Ali 'I Can't Beat Ken Norton Alone'

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  1. Senor Pepe'

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    Dick Young, the great sportswriter for the New York Daily News.

    "The Judges rallied in the last '3' Rounds to save the Champion from certain defeat"

    'Brilliant Phrase'
     
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  2. SBleeder

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    So the "quotes" from Ali are not actually quotes, but are actually his restructuring of Ali's words?

    "I'm king of the world! I'm pretty! I'm a bad man! I shook up the world!"

    Becomes

    "It was a difficult fight. Liston was tearing me up, and I wanted to quit midway through the fight. Honestly, if the fight had gone 15 rounds, there's no way I would have taken this one."
     
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  3. Lord Tywin

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    What kind of idiot posts an unpublished, made up "interview" as fact? Honestly, we get it Pepe/Duce, you hate Ali. If the best you can do is post imaginary interviews that were denied publication then you actually make a stronger case for your weak argument than Ali's weak reign.
     
    Lord Tywin, Sep 19, 2012
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  4. Senor Pepe'

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    New York Daily News

    'A poor promotion, and a poorer fight, and with the poorest judges.'

    'Bob Arum released that over 30,000 attended the Championship Bout,
    but ringside experts and Yankee Stadium officials counted no more than
    19,000 spectators in the seats.'

    'Upper-deck seats with a face value of $25.00 were being given out to
    anyone out in the street for 'free', and still there were no takers.'

    'For Muhammad Ali's sake, he lost his Championship in the eye's of only the
    mere 19,000 that attended this bizarre promotion. Thankfully, for him, more
    did not show up to see him lose the fight, but win in the eye's of the three
    confused officials.'

    'The only thing we can honestly say, is that Ken Norton is now the
    'Uncrowned Champion'.

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    Senor Pepe', Sep 19, 2012
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  5. Andrei00

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    Senor Pepe,

    It's really nice to see that I'm not the only one who thinks Ali is overrated. Besides, I'm what you may call an 'Ali hater', but even for me it seems like your sources lack credibility. I like your work, I just wonder how much truth is in there, that's all.
     
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  6. Senor Pepe'

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    Friday - October 1, 1976

    Three Days after the Tuesday Night Championship Fight at Yankee Stadium
    in front of a disappointing crowd of 19,000 -

    Muhammad Ali was in Istanbul, Turkey stating that was his last fight, and he would
    fight no more.

    Moments after hearing that announcement, Bob Arum issued a press release
    stating that Muhammad Ali had agreed to fight George Foreman in Houston, Texas
    for $10,000,000.
     
    Senor Pepe', Sep 19, 2012
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  7. Lord Tywin

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    Typical Pepe tactic: When someone calls him on his bull****, or backs him into a corner with facts he igores it and posts something that had nothing to do with the discussion.
     
    Lord Tywin, Sep 20, 2012
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  8. HOUDINI

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    Live attendance for the third Ali Norton fight was 30,289. The live gate was 2.4 million. This is as per the RING record book 1977, 1978 and 1979. As of 1977 this fight was the second all time highest live gate receipts for lt heavyweight and above. Second only to the second Dempsey Tunney fight. Info can be found on page 122 of the 1977 Ring record book. The poster is making everything up as he goes.
     
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  9. Jacquot

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    Ali speaks after his fight with George Foreman to Mark Grogin in an article published nowhere ever

    "Foreman made me quit multiple times during the fight, but the referee never stopped it. I got lucky. Thankfully the food poisoning started to take effect in the 7th round".

    Also, it was discovered the fight was filmed in a TV studio in Los Angeles in front of a studio audience.
     
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    I can't say how much I like this.
     
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  11. Senor Pepe'

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    Sorry Houdini,

    Those were the numbers released by Bob Arum (Fight Promoter).

    As a regular visitor at Yankee Stadium for baseball games, I can tell
    you that the attendance was closer to 20,000.
     
    Senor Pepe', Sep 21, 2012
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  12. Lord Tywin

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    If the facts dont suit Pepe/Duce he just lies. LOL. say goodbye to any credibility you may have had.

    "I dont believe the official numbers because I eyeballed it, even though I wasnt there."
     
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    Live gate was 2.4 million. Second highest aside from Dempsey Tunney second fight as of 1977. Handed out tickets for free huh? What an idiot!
     
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  14. Senor Pepe'

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    The 'walk up' ticket purchases for that fight,,,,,,,,less than 200.

    New York Daliy News.

    The entire upper deck was empty, besides a handful of stragglers.

    The fight attendance was announced at close to 32,000 by Bob Arum,
    but it was 19,000 give or take a few thieves, in this truly bad promotion
    on Tuesday, September 28.

    As a side note, the Yankees drew 31,471 for their September 22 Wednesday
    Night game versus the Detroit Tigers.

    The tuth is, most people have had it with Muhammad Ali, and know the real
    reason that Ali is hanging on, is money. He has hurt is image, and is no longer
    regarded as a 'People's Champion', as he now is the Champion of Himself.
     
    Senor Pepe', Sep 22, 2012
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  15. HOUDINI

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    Live gate 2.4 million. second only to Dempsey Tunney. This was the most anticipated bout for Ali after he beat Frazier. Millions all over the world watched from ppv sites. Anyone ever tell you that you are a liar?
     
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