Muhammad Ali in 1966

I'm relieved you feel that way. It is almost reassuring that a blind patriotic ****** like you thinks I'm an idiot.

 

Can you clarify again why being patriotic - if I'm patriotic - is a bad thing?

 

No, because I'm not a psychaitrist, rather, I'm afraid I don't specialise in explaining things to the mentally challenged.

 

So, you're strarting to lie now it seems. What you said is that the England-Argentina game in 1986 was your 'personal favourite', which is the equivalent of a German called the 1988 Euro defeat by Holland his 'personal favourite' (although yours a bit worse as the World Cup is the bigger tournament, of course). I can't imagine too many do, especially as it re-ignited some os the supressed hatred that many of the Dutch held over from the war*. I've always thought Hurst's shot wasn't over the line, but you know that was never the issue. :good





* The streets of Amsterdam were full of people running saying "We've got our bikes back" while holding them in the air.

 

Maybe all the Welsh fans should boo Calzaghe when he fights Kessler in November. That would be refreshing. :tired

 

No, I'd really like to know why you think being mildly patriotic is a bad thing.

 

Yes I did say it was my 'personal favourite'. However, my analogy is still a valid one. Either way I am glad England got beat that day in '86 it was the correct result. If you remember, I initially made the comment in reference to the cumupance I felt England deserved in being awarded a goal against Germany in '66.

 

Your quesion to Tobkhan was based on him not being patriotic if he said Holland deserved to win a game against Germany...I think I still have the 1986 game on tape by the way- and Argentina played by far the best. Again, that's not the issue.

 

OK if you insist. People are indoctrinated with the ideas of patriotism for one reason because it serves the interests of the wealthy upper class and corrupt leaders. They are not concerned at all about their country, nor any country in particular, they are above the law and above borders. The only thing they serve, honour and respect is wealth. Their greed and selfishness are their virues while they cultivate indifference and passivity among their slaves (you being one of them). George Bush for example thinks he has a herd of 300 million American sheep.

 

Yet you want the all-star US basktball team to win at the Olympics, apparently. Make your mind up. :huh

 

What exactly is the issue then?

Other than you being offended by my support of Argentina and my joy at seeing them win.

Why did this make you so angry and resort to using racist statements?

 

you know, if you replaced the word patriotism with the word religion, a lot of that would still make perfect sense.

 

The US basketball team do not have a significant number of racist drunken fans that bring shame to their country.

 

To a certain extent you are correct.

 

I wasn't angry. I just figured your views were similar to the 'minority' of immigrants who come here and hate the place. How old are you by the way?