Muhammad ali the greatest fighter ever?

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  1. MUFA$A

    MUFA$A FEAR * THE * TANK Full Member

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    Muhammad Ali is the greatest fighter who ever lived.

    Greater than Sugar Ray Robinson.

    Absolutely.
     
  2. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    By "his politics" what exactly are you referring to?
     
  3. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    He's got arguably the greatest resume of any heavyweight, one of top p4p fighters ever and is the face of boxing the way Jordan is for basketball. To me that makes him the greatest ever
     
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  4. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ali was an ATG, but he was beaten three times and that has to be acknowledged
     
  5. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Numero uno...
     
  6. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Rakim Oaks was the most highly decorated American soldier in Vietnam, and the most decorated American soldier ever to have been court martialed. His entire military record was expunged by executive order signed by Lyndon Johnson in June 1967.

    Your math is terrible. Let's say Oaks was 18 years old when he was a professional bareknuckle boxer on the streets of New York in 1964, where Cus D'Amato saw him and offered to train him. Instead Oaks enlists and goes to Nam. That makes him 45 in 1991 when he schools Mike Tyson in prison. George Foreman won the heavyweight title for the second time at the age of 45. So no, not too old.
     
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  7. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    I googled him back when some had a thread on the same matter and recently and nothing comes up because it's a mythical person.
     
  8. Nighttrain

    Nighttrain 'BOUT IT 'BOUT IT Full Member

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    He had been devoured by a big foot before Ali was even drafted.
     
  9. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    For me Muhammad Ali is was & always will be The Greatest!!!!!! When you consider we were deprived of 3 1/2 years of Ali's prime for purely political reasons think what more he could have accomplished??
    Before you start the refused induction into the army BS. Have you forgotten a certain William Jefferson Clinton fled to England to avoid the draft. His punishment? You made him President of the United States!!!
    At least Ali stayed here and faced the music. He will always be my hero
     
  10. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    In later years, Cus D'Amato recalled seeing Oaks fight bareknuckle in New York in the early 1960's and said Oaks was the best heavyweight fighter he ever saw. In his book, Mike Tyson says that D'Amato gave him instructions on how Mike would beat every heavyweight champion who ever lived. Mike said he knocked out Larry Holmes exactly the way Cus told him to. But friends of Cus say he also told Mike, "There's no film of Oaks and I have no idea how you would beat him. But don't worry. He's dead."
     
  11. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fought and beat the best ducked no one and I mean no one over 2 decades.
    Frazier x 3, Norton x 3, Liston x 2,Quarry x 2, Patterson x 2, Chuvalo x 2, Foreman, Lyle, Shavers, Bonavena, Young etc the best heavyweight champion resume by a mile.
    There was a controversial win or two in there but which fighter over a long career doesn't have that?
    He NEVER lost 3 times to Norton, he was up at a count of 2 with Cooper, like some of the clowns on here with an agenda you concentrate on the negative rather than the man's fantastic achievements.
     
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  12. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    He's 2nd in my HW all time rankings, behind the king Joe Louis
     
  13. Shisha

    Shisha New Member Full Member

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    He is and I feel like people on this forum are unnecessary critical of him...
     
  14. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The peoples champ he is the best loved boxer of all time.
     
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  15. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    #1 at HW, top 10 (closer to 5) overall.