Muhammad Ali V Jimmy Young

Jut re-watched the Ali-Young bout.

Very hard to score more than 6 Rounds for the 'Clumsy Dancing Bear'.
A guy with 230 lbs. of girth behind him, and punching like a 'little girl'.

Against a guy with only '4' knock-outs in 23 bouts.

 

Ali at 230 and age 34 didn't look a total slob in '76... Ali wasn't gross looking like he was years later in 1981 at 236 pounds and slurring his words in the Bahamas....

Still, even an aging and over-weight Ali still proved his metal against a defensive master (Young) who hid in the ropes and also patty-caked back at Ali in 76....

I guess a draw would've been fair, but no way in hell did Young deserve the decision... No, no... Ali getting the nod was cool with me...

MR.BILL:hat

 

How about one those,,,,,,,,,,NO CONTEST RULINGS.....

Jimmy Young didn't win the bout,,,,,,,,,,but he didn't lose it either.

Muhammad Ali didn't earn a decision,,,,,,,,,it wasn't even workman-like.

 

A bunch of snobby pricks, all you Classic folk.

 

I admit, Ali showed up as if he just crawled outta bed to box with Young in '76. But, that shows just how great he was / is...... Even half asleep he can still spar 15 rds and hang with a top contender...

good

MR.BILL:rasta

 

Oh, my Christ...... I just uncovered my '88 tape of "Foreman vs. Carlos Hernandez" from the USA network, and Randy Gordon did a quick interview with Jimmy Young who was close by the pre-fight action / hoopla.... Young was only roughly age 40 here, but his speech and ability to express himself was horrid... He was as bad as Ali became.... No ****.....
scaredas:atsch

MR.BILL:roll:

 

Freaky... Going back on the '88 tape, Foreman looks young and trim at age 39 and 245 pounds here against Carlos Hernandez. Hernandez had been in Spinks' camp as a chief Sparring partner for his ill-fated challenge to Tyson in June 1988....

Jersey Joe Walcott is seated at ringside....

Dem were the good ole ****in' days......:deal

MR.BILL:hat

 

I rmember that interveiw, I think someone asked him if he'd fight Foreman, and he said only if he had to. I think he was also missing some teeth, but I don't remember him being in bad shape though.

 

OK, I just rewatched ali/Young again, this time with no beer, I thought maybe without a buzz on I'd see my hero really didn'tdo as well as I'd rememberes, but I really had a hard time giving ali any rds, and he looked in good shape also, I know he was a little heavyer than usual, but he looked good. Now, about Jimmy going through the ropes, I noticed he only did it when ali was pushing his head down, or similar type of fouls, I guess he thought if the ref didn't call fatso out on it, he'd get out of it that way. But he fought a superb fight, made ali look like an ass, no, it wasn't a slugfest, but a brilliant fight by Young.

 

joebeadg,

Take a gander at those scorecards,,,,,,,,,,,,pathetic.

The judges had Ali sweeping pretty much rounds 3 thru 11.
One of the worst crimes ever pulled on an American viewing audience.

I wonder, if Jimmy had gotten the decision, and then fought Richard Dunn
in his first title defense.
Wonder what the 'Fat Clumsy Dancing Bear' would have said.

See the 'Ali Game',,,,,,,,a sucker born every minute.

Want to buy a 'Champburger' franchise.

 

I remember my best friend's father watched the fight with us, and afterwards he explained the lofty, abstract concept that close rounds go to the champ. I didn't accept it then and I still don't. I sent a bulk e-mail to Carlos Zarate, Marvin Hagler, and Greg Haugen to get their opinions, and am waiting to hear back. I'll keep you posted.

 

I didn't even give him that many rounds. When they announced the scorecards and how lopsided they were, I remember thinking man they sure didn't "give" rounds to Norton or Frazier in all those bouts. How in the world are they giving that many to Jimmy? Then, the decision is announced and it's Ali by a landslide. I agreed with the scores, just the wrong name announced.

I had a chance to go the fight but didn't. I just didn't think much of the matchup and the undercard was pretty mediocre. Sure wish I had. Watching the bout on tv was a real shock though. Jimmy had Ali falling all over the place with his feints. Incredible. I couldn't believe it. All those other guys Ali fought and he was very very difficult to feint in there. And here was Jimmy all night long feinting him. And countering Ali with clean right hands. And Muhammad couldn't land on the guy. Nothing clean and the guy rolled with everything. I don't think Ali missed that many punches in his 3 previous fights added up. And when did he ever have a problem landing clean?

It's still one of the most remarkable performances by a guy given zero chance and kind of like Douglas--Tyson or that first Ali--Norton fight. 2 rounds in and you knew it was going to be a tough night's work and this was not some soft opponent like he was supposed to be.

You also knew that once that decision was announced, Angelo was never going to let Muhammad get back in the ring with that guy.

 

If I was new to boxing at the time and didn't know who the participants were in that fight I would've thought the smaller younger looking fighter won by a comfortable margin. This was another case of Ali winning on his name,fame and resume. Much like Norton III. Ali was the draw in the HW division at that time and deservedly so. Short of utter domination or a 10 count he was going to win. There were no personalities out there to carry the fans' interests and boxing wasn't ready to say goodbye to it's biggest cash cow...yet.

 

Ali got the nod in this one because he's Ali...any other fighter...Young gets the decision...

 

Jimmy Young always had for fight 4 men at once in all his fights...the opponent and the three judges. The judges who scored Ali the winner in their fight were so crooked that they'll have to be screwed into the ground when they die.